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Old 03-20-2012, 05:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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One scenario that hasnt yet been brought up by anyone is going after Eric Gordon, but obviously that comes with risk. I think he'd be a great fit in to what we're doing and has a very good chance of being a top SG if hes not already, when healthy.
Yeah but is he worth max money? Cause thats the only way weel get him. And we still dont know what we have with DD. You want to bury him on the bench already?
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One scenario that hasnt yet been brought up by anyone is going after Eric Gordon, but obviously that comes with risk. I think he'd be a great fit in to what we're doing and has a very good chance of being a top SG if hes not already, when healthy.
Would definitely love that signing as well.

When healthy, that kid is the real deal.
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One scenario that hasnt yet been brought up by anyone is going after Eric Gordon, but obviously that comes with risk. I think he'd be a great fit in to what we're doing and has a very good chance of being a top SG if hes not already, when healthy.

You're right that it's an attractive basketball move, but it's just far-fetched for other reasons. Raps don't have any leverage here.

I wouldn't bring it up because the Pacers have a way better shot at landing him than us. And multiple sources (Woj and Simmons come to mind) have stated that there is mutual interest. Gordon grew up in Indiana and played college ball in Indiana, so playing for the Pacers would supposedly be attractive to him. The Pacers also happen to have some of the best financial flexibility in the league, as well as assets to move, depending on the method required to get Gordon (S&T in 2012 or UFA in 2013).
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They'd move George to the 3 I'd assume? Dump Grangers ass outta there.

They'd be 1 point guard away from being very, very scary.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:06 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Yeah but is he worth max money? Cause thats the only way weel get him. And we still dont know what we have with DD. You want to bury him on the bench already?
DD may be heading to the bench anyways if we draft a young SG
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:17 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Here's a list of 2012 impact FAs by position (link to a full list is also available):

Ranking The 2012 NBA Free Agents | HOOPSWORLD | Basketball News & NBA Rumors

The list is a bit outdated (Howard and Chandler are still listed, for instance).

Deron Williams is, by far, the most attractive target at any position. Gordon and Batum top their positions, while the list of power players makes me happy we appear to be quite stocked there (either old or won't be let go by their current teams).

Looking at our roster as constructed today, adding JV and a high pick which is NOT going to be a point guard, the only player who makes absolute sense for BC to go after is Deron. Yes, the chances are slim, but the rewards of having an elite PG added to the existing talent pool are too huge to ignore.

Frankly, noone else on the list excites me compared to what we have today.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:18 PM   #67 (permalink)
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DD can play the 3, he's looked good at times playing it this year. Or we could move him in a package for another good to very good player.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:27 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I have 2 problems with Gordon:

1. Health.
2. Size, especially on defense.

Thrills, how much would you offer him?
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:07 PM   #69 (permalink)
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If I'm not mistaken, Gordon has never played more than 62 games in a season. All kinds of talent but it's a scary proposition to hand out that kind of money to a guy who can't stay on the floor.
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Why not just draft the younger, healthier version of Gordon in Bradley Beal?
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Gordon's a grumpy baby, that dude sucks. Players that fake injuries in order to miss an entire season is total crap. Even if it means playing for the lowly Hornets in meaningless games, that shouldn't matter.

Every game in the NBA should have meaning.

If a player lost this understanding because of some Los Angeles yuppie crybaby attitude, then that player can stay down there in the land of the highest homeless junkie population in the world, in the giant city that smells of ashtrays.
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I have 2 problems with Gordon:

1. Health.
2. Size, especially on defense.

Thrills, how much would you offer him?
Gordon is 6'4 and he's pretty strong, not to mention we have Casey so I'm not too worried about the defensive end with Gordon. I've seen him D up Kobe pretty well in Clips/Lakers games, and really, the SG position isnt too scary right now league wide besides maybe 5-7 players. A guy like Foye vs Gordon defensively is apples and oranges.

I'd offer him 4 years 48 million, with some sort of injury clause out for us in case his knees just cant hold up(something like BRoy where we pay him a certain percentage of his salary but it doesnt go against the cap. I'm not a contract or cap wizard, but I think this is what happened).

And IMO, I think the Hornets are the ones holding him out this year. Its a smart move if you look at it closely, they get to tank for a better pick, and they drive his value down for oncoming free agency.
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And IMO, I think the Hornets are the ones holding him out this year. Its a smart move if you look at it closely, they get to tank for a better pick, and they drive his value down for oncoming free agency.
I see the logic in the Hornets keeping him out of the lineup to tank. That makes sense.

But I'm not as sold on the point about driving down his value. That only works if they think they can keep him. The Hornets would only want his value low if they think he'll sign an offer sheet. They'd want to match a low offer.

But, because Gordon has already once refused to sign an extension, there is a chance he will be stupid and play out his qualifying year. In that case, the Hornets need to move him before he becomes a UFA.

Knowing all of this, the Hornets might have accepted the fact that they will have to trade him. The time to trade him is this summer while he is an RFA and they still have matching rights. You want his value to be high if you're going to trade him. It could be harder to trade him in a qualifying year.
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