DeMar DeRozan vs. Gerald Green

thought · 02-13-2011, 11:41 AM

Blog piece on DeMar

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Physically, DeRozan and Green are almost identical. Both stand at 6’7″, 200 pounds, give or take a few. With 6’9″ wingspans and similarly impressive athletic ability, there is no glaring advantage going one way or the other. And it’s surely not a question of talent. It’s never a question of talent. Talent is the most visible commodity one owns, especially for those that highly regarded in high school, college, and through the NBA draft process. DeRozan and Green both had the opportunity to make an impact on the league. But if that’s the case, then why is it that one is transforming into an efficient offensive weapon in the NBA, and the other is putting up inefficient numbers for a middling Russian team?

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fresh n' spicy · 02-13-2011, 11:49 AM

good article. Gerald green does not have anything outside of athleticism which is why he is no longer around. Demar is developing a nice jumper and has become a much more complete player as the season has gone on.

Dark Knight · 02-13-2011, 11:51 AM

DeMar's IQ > Gerald Green's IQ

Good article BTW.

Don Vito · 02-13-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

DeMar's IQ > Gerald Green's IQ

Good article BTW.

IQ wise and basketball IQ wise. Gerald Green is plain dumb.

Ataf · 02-13-2011, 12:03 PM

Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

Don Vito · 02-13-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataf

Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

I'd say DeRozan but my opinion is biased.

Dark Knight · 02-13-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataf

Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

Gerald Green's wiki page says his vert is a ridiculous 48 inches, but Chad Ford's draft combine results say its more around a 39 inch vertical leap. DD has about a 38-ish vertical leap. So yeah, its pretty close. I think DeMar is stronger though.

But GG is one dumb-ass player. You can only get so far on pure athletic ability. At some point, you're gonna have to start using your head.

MARTYNAS · 02-13-2011, 12:12 PM

Green is nasty

YouTube - Gerald Green Dunk

And I love his headband

thought · 02-13-2011, 12:22 PM

just sounds to me like Green was selfish and didn't want to put the work in. He could have had a good bball IQ but it wouldn't have mattered either way.

Alex · 02-13-2011, 12:28 PM

Gerald Green is a scrub. He's a perfect example of why pure dunkers don't get in the NBA. Look at anyone from TFB, great athleticism. That's about it.

LX · 02-13-2011, 12:32 PM

I remember around when Green was drafted, that he was just so incredibly full of himself. And not even spending that one year in college likely didn't help at all. I still think that hampered McGrady from being all that he could be. Coming straight out of high school requires some pretty exceptional grounding, or else it is something that is going to cost guys in the long run.

EggsToTheBBQ · 02-13-2011, 12:35 PM

YouTube - Gerald Green's Top 10 Career Dunks

Gurk · 02-13-2011, 01:39 PM

Green is garbage. Other then athleticism he had nothing. That's why is sucks even in Russia.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN · 02-13-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurk

Green is garbage. Other then athleticism he had nothing. That's why is sucks even in Russia.

Yep.

To be very good NBA player you just can't get by with talent/athletic ability. You need that, hard work off the court, and good BB IQ.

All of it. Athletic ability can make you a star in HS. Might even make you a okay player in college. But if that is all you have it will give you a small career in the NBA.

TOAO · 02-13-2011, 02:12 PM

there's been a countless number of players who got hype solely based on their athleticism. the difference between the players like green and players who become solid players in the nba is their will to improve and the effort they put in to become a better player

"potential" may get you into the league, but hard work is the only recipe to stay in. that's also what separates good players from great players. look at kobe and lebron- they weren't even close to the players they are right now when they entered the league. it's all about hard work. great players improve every single year

MARTYNAS · 02-13-2011, 02:20 PM

Yep, what is potential? Potential is just word, just a guess.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN · 02-13-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTYNAS

Yep, what is potential? Potential is just word, just a guess.

True which is why building a team is so hard. If it was so easy the bottom teams would be good sooner than later. Its not a crystal ball where you see in the future. You've to draft a player that you have no clue how he will turn out and invest years/money into him. Its a gamble.

F1nir_ · 02-13-2011, 05:50 PM

Green had lots of opportunities to improve under good teams and coaches but the guy didn't have a good work ethic, but on the other hand "demar is a gym rat." (<-- not my words

)

BballWatcher · 02-13-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EggsToTheBBQ

YouTube - Gerald Green's Top 10 Career Dunks

Fascinating! While most of those dunks are mighty impressive, only a single one of them is him actually creating a play for himself and that's against nothing competition (D-League or summer league competition). Every other dunk is him just running the floor and catching a pass.

I guess Green is the classic "decent stats on a bad team" player because that one year he put up 10ppg he was on a 24 Win 57 Loss Boston team... ouch.

jrob23 · 02-13-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

Coming straight out of high school requires some pretty exceptional grounding, or else it is something that is going to cost guys in the long run.

yep, more recently JR Smith

great potential but he really hasnt developed

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02-13-2011, 11:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
fresh n' spicy is hoping valenciunas isnt a bust Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: mississauga Posts: 976 Representing:	good article. Gerald green does not have anything outside of athleticism which is why he is no longer around. Demar is developing a nice jumper and has become a much more complete player as the season has gone on.

02-13-2011, 11:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dark Knight is waiting for the sun to come out so he can let his guns out. Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Electric Avenue Posts: 15,049 Representing:	DeMar's IQ > Gerald Green's IQ Good article BTW.

02-13-2011, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ataf is On T-Ross Flight 31 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Catharines Posts: 1,033 Representing:	Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

02-13-2011, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
thought is looking for clunge Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,020 Representing:	just sounds to me like Green was selfish and didn't want to put the work in. He could have had a good bball IQ but it wouldn't have mattered either way.

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Alex is grabbin boards, droppin dimes, and lightin them up Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,872 Representing:	Gerald Green is a scrub. He's a perfect example of why pure dunkers don't get in the NBA. Look at anyone from TFB, great athleticism. That's about it.

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LX is a belly putter in a world of crotch shots In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 23,377 Representing:	I remember around when Green was drafted, that he was just so incredibly full of himself. And not even spending that one year in college likely didn't help at all. I still think that hampered McGrady from being all that he could be. Coming straight out of high school requires some pretty exceptional grounding, or else it is something that is going to cost guys in the long run.

02-13-2011, 01:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gurk is one sexy motherfucker you ain't bout that life Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,681 Representing:	Green is garbage. Other then athleticism he had nothing. That's why is sucks even in Russia.

02-13-2011, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
TOAO is . Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Markham Posts: 370 Representing:	there's been a countless number of players who got hype solely based on their athleticism. the difference between the players like green and players who become solid players in the nba is their will to improve and the effort they put in to become a better player "potential" may get you into the league, but hard work is the only recipe to stay in. that's also what separates good players from great players. look at kobe and lebron- they weren't even close to the players they are right now when they entered the league. it's all about hard work. great players improve every single year

02-13-2011, 02:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
MARTYNAS is some creepy guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: far far away Posts: 1,445 Representing:	Yep, what is potential? Potential is just word, just a guess.

02-13-2011, 05:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
F1nir_ is Put Comment Here- Maybe I will Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 512 Representing:	Green had lots of opportunities to improve under good teams and coaches but the guy didn't have a good work ethic, but on the other hand "demar is a gym rat." (<-- not my words )