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thought 02-13-2011 12:41 PM

DeMar DeRozan vs. Gerald Green
 
Blog piece on DeMar

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Physically, DeRozan and Green are almost identical. Both stand at 6í7″, 200 pounds, give or take a few. With 6í9″ wingspans and similarly impressive athletic ability, there is no glaring advantage going one way or the other. And itís surely not a question of talent. Itís never a question of talent. Talent is the most visible commodity one owns, especially for those that highly regarded in high school, college, and through the NBA draft process. DeRozan and Green both had the opportunity to make an impact on the league. But if thatís the case, then why is it that one is transforming into an efficient offensive weapon in the NBA, and the other is putting up inefficient numbers for a middling Russian team?
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fresh n' spicy 02-13-2011 12:49 PM

good article. Gerald green does not have anything outside of athleticism which is why he is no longer around. Demar is developing a nice jumper and has become a much more complete player as the season has gone on.

Dark Knight 02-13-2011 12:51 PM

DeMar's IQ > Gerald Green's IQ

Good article BTW. :golfclap:

Don Vito 02-13-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 507706)
DeMar's IQ > Gerald Green's IQ

Good article BTW. :golfclap:

IQ wise and basketball IQ wise. Gerald Green is plain dumb.

Ataf 02-13-2011 01:03 PM

Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

Don Vito 02-13-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataf (Post 507710)
Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

I'd say DeRozan but my opinion is biased.

Dark Knight 02-13-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataf (Post 507710)
Who's more athletic?:S Gerald green right?

Gerald Green's wiki page says his vert is a ridiculous 48 inches, but Chad Ford's draft combine results say its more around a 39 inch vertical leap. DD has about a 38-ish vertical leap. So yeah, its pretty close. I think DeMar is stronger though.

But GG is one dumb-ass player. You can only get so far on pure athletic ability. At some point, you're gonna have to start using your head.

MARTYNAS 02-13-2011 01:12 PM

Green is nasty

And I love his headband

thought 02-13-2011 01:22 PM

just sounds to me like Green was selfish and didn't want to put the work in. He could have had a good bball IQ but it wouldn't have mattered either way.

Alex 02-13-2011 01:28 PM

Gerald Green is a scrub. He's a perfect example of why pure dunkers don't get in the NBA. Look at anyone from TFB, great athleticism. That's about it.

LX 02-13-2011 01:32 PM

I remember around when Green was drafted, that he was just so incredibly full of himself. And not even spending that one year in college likely didn't help at all. I still think that hampered McGrady from being all that he could be. Coming straight out of high school requires some pretty exceptional grounding, or else it is something that is going to cost guys in the long run.

EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 01:35 PM


:yeah:

Gurk 02-13-2011 02:39 PM

Green is garbage. Other then athleticism he had nothing. That's why is sucks even in Russia.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-13-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurk (Post 507749)
Green is garbage. Other then athleticism he had nothing. That's why is sucks even in Russia.


Yep.

To be very good NBA player you just can't get by with talent/athletic ability. You need that, hard work off the court, and good BB IQ.

All of it. Athletic ability can make you a star in HS. Might even make you a okay player in college. But if that is all you have it will give you a small career in the NBA.

TOAO 02-13-2011 03:12 PM

there's been a countless number of players who got hype solely based on their athleticism. the difference between the players like green and players who become solid players in the nba is their will to improve and the effort they put in to become a better player

"potential" may get you into the league, but hard work is the only recipe to stay in. that's also what separates good players from great players. look at kobe and lebron- they weren't even close to the players they are right now when they entered the league. it's all about hard work. great players improve every single year

MARTYNAS 02-13-2011 03:20 PM

Yep, what is potential? Potential is just word, just a guess.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-13-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTYNAS (Post 507769)
Yep, what is potential? Potential is just word, just a guess.

True which is why building a team is so hard. If it was so easy the bottom teams would be good sooner than later. Its not a crystal ball where you see in the future. You've to draft a player that you have no clue how he will turn out and invest years/money into him. Its a gamble.

F1nir_ 02-13-2011 06:50 PM

Green had lots of opportunities to improve under good teams and coaches but the guy didn't have a good work ethic, but on the other hand "demar is a gym rat." (<-- not my words :reporter:)

BballWatcher 02-13-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EggsToTheBBQ (Post 507724)

Fascinating! While most of those dunks are mighty impressive, only a single one of them is him actually creating a play for himself and that's against nothing competition (D-League or summer league competition). Every other dunk is him just running the floor and catching a pass.

I guess Green is the classic "decent stats on a bad team" player because that one year he put up 10ppg he was on a 24 Win 57 Loss Boston team... ouch.

jrob23 02-13-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 507722)
Coming straight out of high school requires some pretty exceptional grounding, or else it is something that is going to cost guys in the long run.

yep, more recently JR Smith

great potential but he really hasnt developed


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