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Old 04-06-2011, 12:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I would guess that he thinks too much on shots that have been out of his range. He might just need to feel confident that his range has expanded. Or get a better idea of when it's a good idea to shoot a 3 rather than drive without overthinking. It's not hard to imagine both his range and handles getting better, and seeing him just play with a full arsenal. So far it's been nice to see him prove to be pretty effective with just a few bullets in the barrel. Remember just a few months ago when it seemed like he only had one move and inevitably got stripped of the ball, or had his shot blocked, due to the predictability of his game? He's quickly moving in the right direction.
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3PM 3PA 3PP
9 52 .173
3 18 .167
12 66 .182
7 53 .132
27 98 .276
92 245 .376

I'll be ecstatic if Derozan ends up like the guy who posted the stats above in his first 6 seasons.

The three point shot will come with time when it's needed.

One of the reasons he's a bad three point shooter is his mentality. He wants to win so badly he doesn't want to squander possessions. He always wants a better look and he's willing to fight for it.

That's the type of player you need on your team.
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His 3 pt shooting will come. I think he has the range, he just needs to work on the mechanics of shooting that far. During some games, he's made shots from inches below the arc. Having 3 point shooting down, he'll be tougher to guard and score more
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3PM 3PA 3PP
9 52 .173
3 18 .167
12 66 .182
7 53 .132
27 98 .276
92 245 .376

I'll be ecstatic if Derozan ends up like the guy who posted the stats above in his first 6 seasons.

The three point shot will come with time when it's needed.

One of the reasons he's a bad three point shooter is his mentality. He wants to win so badly he doesn't want to squander possessions. He always wants a better look and he's willing to fight for it.

That's the type of player you need on your team.
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Give me a mid-range game that guys have trouble defending and I could care less about the 3pt shot.

He's show the ability to get to the rim and hit when left open, but if he can hit a pull up mid range jumper, screw the 3 pt shot. That's a lot harder to guard when the guy is going.

3 pointers are overrated.
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Demar is fine. I think his 3 point shot will come. He doesn't need to be a shooter. As long as he does not force it and can make the occasional three here and there.

A refined midrange game> three point shot
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If we had a SF that can hit 3's consistently it wouldn't be any kind of issue at all. He's a good mid range shooter that gets to the line. If we had a SF in the starting lineup that hit 3's nobody would bat an eye. Hell, how about a PG that can hit 3's consistently, Jose can at times but he isn't aggressive enough to take enough shots to make a vast difference. When your starting 1-2-3 can't hit 3PT or just refuse to shoot them often enough, you're gonna have issues. Which is why we rely on a 7' Center to take 3's.

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If we had a SF that can hit 3's consistently it wouldn't be any kind of issue at all. He's a good mid range shooter that gets to the line. If we had a SF in the starting lineup that hit 3's nobody would bat an eye. Hell, how about a PG that can hit 3's consistently, Jose can at times but he isn't aggressive enough to take enough shots to make a vast difference. When your starting 1-2-3 can't hit 3PT or just refuse to shoot them often enough, you're gonna have issues.
No you're not.

Pippen, Jordan and even Harper were NEVER great 3 pt shooters yet they really never had a problem.

You had your shooting off the bench.

You want good offensive players. That's it. Who cares about the 3 pt shot.
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whatever. DD has developed a pretty consistent mid range game.
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No you're not.

Pippen, Jordan and even Harper were NEVER great 3 pt shooters yet they really never had a problem.

You had your shooting off the bench.

You want good offensive players. That's it. Who cares about the 3 pt shot.
Take a look at the top teams in the league right now, pretty much all of them have a starter or two that can hit 3's. And if you don't have one of your starters who play 30+mpg hitting three's you damn well better defend (which we also don't do of course). Today's NBA relies on the three quite a bit more then 15-20yrs ago.
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No you're not.

Pippen, Jordan and even Harper were NEVER great 3 pt shooters yet they really never had a problem.

You had your shooting off the bench.

You want good offensive players. That's it. Who cares about the 3 pt shot.
Yeah, there are different ways to win, although having solid defense is pretty essential. The elite teams in the league use the 3ball in varying degrees, depending on what other offensive strengths they have at their disposal. San Antonio is at or near the top in 3 point makes and attempts this season, but Boston, Miami, Chicago and the Lakers are all outside the top 10 in makes and attempts. In fact, Boston is 28th in the league in attempts. And last year, the Lakers were 24th in the league in 3fg%. Just to add some concrete examples.
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It seems like every new 3 point shooter that comes to the Raps loses their shooting ability.
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Take a look at the top teams in the league right now, pretty much all of them have a starter or two that can hit 3's. And if you don't have one of your starters who play 30+mpg hitting three's you damn well better defend (which we also don't do of course). Today's NBA relies on the three quite a bit more then 15-20yrs ago.
It definitely helps to have 1 or 2 players who are threats to jack a bomb, but 3 point shooting doesn't make or break the top teams. See my above post. There are different ways to run an effective offense.
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Take a look at the top teams in the league right now, pretty much all of them have a starter or two that can hit 3's. And if you don't have one of your starters who play 30+mpg hitting three's you damn well better defend (which we also don't do of course). Today's NBA relies on the three quite a bit more then 15-20yrs ago.
Chicago? Rose doesn't shoot a ton nor does Deng really, probably at the same clip as Toronto with Jose and even Rose @ 32% ain't a great 3 pt shooter.

Miami? James and Wade aren't great shooters either.

Boston has Ray Allen and Pierce so yes, they're solid a 2 and 3 but terrible at the 1 with Rondo.

The Lakers? I really wouldn't call Bryant a good 3 pt. shooter. Barnes/Artest aren't much better than what we have in Toronto with shooting too.

OKC and Dallas really stand out.

At the end of the day, good post pay, good ball movement, good spacing, moving the ball around for the best shot (all the top teams do THIS) and creativity on the dribble, those characterize the top teams in the league, not needing to have your 1-2-3 as 3 pt shooters.
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Yeah, there are different ways to win, although having solid defense is pretty essential. The elite teams in the league use the 3ball in varying degrees, depending on what other offensive strengths they have at their disposal. San Antonio is at or near the top in 3 point makes and attempts this season, but Boston, Miami, Chicago and the Lakers are all outside the top 10 in makes and attempts. In fact, Boston is 28th in the league in attempts. And last year, the Lakers were 24th in the league in 3fg%. Just to add some concrete examples.
Yep. But there's concern that SA is relying TOO much on guard play right now and won't be able to extend that into the playoffs.

Defense, yep, that'll win you games.
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I'm telling you, it's practice.

He can improve that in a year.

Hopla and him over the summer and I guarantee his up to high 30's in percentage.
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It's definitely an overrated issue. 3 point shooting is nice, but it's not like he's taken 200 attempts this season. I'm happier with efficiency. His shot selection (mostly 15 foot jumpers and closer) is a lot better than Bargnani (mostly long 2's and 3's).
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