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Old 11-27-2009, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dear Bryan Colangelo,

Dude, i'm not sure if you read this thing but a couple things are certain:

1. You need a solid combo-guard who can play above-average defense
2. You need to fire Jay Triano
3. Several potential All-Stars are under-performing on the Clippers. Please exploit this.

Proposal:
1. Trade DeRozan for Kirk Hinrich
2. Get your cajones together and actually fire Triano. Then find a coach that can teach basic NBA defense.
3. Stop blaming your coach. Perhaps it's not your coach that your team can't rebound and play lock-down defence on scrubs like Charlotte and Memphis. You acquired all these pansies and got no rebounding in the offseason. Get off your ass, call LA and get a guys like Kaman or Thorton. We need aggressive bigs.

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Proposals 2 and 3 don't seem to jive together.

I doubt very seriously that there is any NBA coach that can really make these guys play consistent defense. Between Calderon, Turkoglu, and Bargnani, the defensive talent just isn't there.
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hinrich is a bum
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i don't agree with the specific action that you suggested, but i do agree with the grand scheme of your post. Something has to be done to wake this team up, i don't know if it has to be as drastic as firing our coach or breaking up our so call BIG THREE. I personally think that it is a little early to fire the head coach, because at this point i think it will do more bad than good. Maybe a switch of starting line up or benching couple of player for a while would do the trick. Some people think that the teams just needs a little more time to start gelling and play better defence, but i do not think that is the case with this team.

If you have watched any of the games lately, the players just are not interested in playing, even in couple of the games we won, the players kind of dose off during the middle of the game sometimes. Defence is about effort, even when u have nine new guys on the team, it doesn't mean you can give minimum effort and blame the lose on little chemistry. There is no excuse for the effort the players give during almost every game of this season. There has to be something done to lets these players know that they better start giving 100 percent effort each game now, or something bad is going to happen.

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Proposals 2 and 3 don't seem to jive together.

I doubt very seriously that there is any NBA coach that can really make these guys play consistent defense. Between Calderon, Turkoglu, and Bargnani, the defensive talent just isn't there.
there is talent, and then there is effort. you can say you have no talent but that doesn't mean u can give little effort as a result. Okay maybe these guys have no talent, i don't blame them. But from what i see, they just don't even want to try to play defence. Its almost like they are thinking, yea i have no talent so im just not going to give any effort at all for playing defence. wtf. i don't pay hard earned money to watch couple of assholes relaxing on the court
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Dude, i'm not sure if you read this thing but a couple things are certain:

1. You need a solid combo-guard who can play above-average defense
2. You need to fire Jay Triano
3. Several potential All-Stars are under-performing on the Clippers. Please exploit this.

Proposal:
1. Trade DeRozan for Kirk Hinrich
2. Get your cajones together and actually fire Triano. Then find a coach that can teach basic NBA defense.
3. Stop blaming your coach. Perhaps it's not your coach that your team can't rebound and play lock-down defence on scrubs like Charlotte and Memphis. You acquired all these pansies and got no rebounding in the offseason. Get off your ass, call LA and get a guys like Kaman or Thorton. We need aggressive bigs.

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Dude, i'm not sure if you read this thing but a couple things are certain:

1. You need a solid combo-guard who can play above-average defense
2. You need to fire Jay Triano
3. Several potential All-Stars are under-performing on the Clippers. Please exploit this.

Proposal:
1. Trade DeRozan for Kirk Hinrich
2. Get your cajones together and actually fire Triano. Then find a coach that can teach basic NBA defense.
3. Stop blaming your coach. Perhaps it's not your coach that your team can't rebound and play lock-down defence on scrubs like Charlotte and Memphis. You acquired all these pansies and got no rebounding in the offseason. Get off your ass, call LA and get a guys like Kaman or Thorton. We need aggressive bigs.

Sincerely,

Austin J Ayala
This will surely be on BC's desk in the morning..I'd love to acquire Hinrich, but I'd like to see Calderon going the other way. But considering how low his trade value must be, that's impractical. You want Clippers?..The same team that allowed us to crawl back and defeat them. Yeah, those guys are high calibre characters.
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This will surely be on BC's desk in the morning..I'd love to acquire Hinrich, but I'd like to see Calderon going the other way. But considering how low his trade value must be, that's impractical. You want Clippers?..The same team that allowed us to crawl back and defeat them. Yeah, those guys are high calibre characters.
There's nothing wrong with Kaman. He'd be a great center for us, but if he's here Bosh or Bargs has to go, and we all know as long as Colangelo is the GM Bargs isn't going anywhere.

Granny thinks Hinrich is a bum, but then again, i dont think she likes anyone in the NBA. I dislike him because he's fucking up my fantasy pool right now, however, if given minutes the guy can produce.
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bargs for oden if portland is dumb enough

or Calderon for miller and fernandez

and dump hedo off to the highest bidder, any bidder, he's garbage

hinrich, you stay away, enough stiffs already
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hinrich, you stay away, enough stiffs already
hinrich was on the all-nba defensive team (2nd team i believe) a few years ago.

Would love to see Jose and Bargs go there and Noah and Hinrich come back. That way Turk could be used more effectively and we'd destroy everyone on the glass.

Imagine Bosh/Noah rebounding frontcourt with Evans coming off the bench and Amir a little as well. We'd be so hardcore lol.
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hinrich was on the all-nba defensive team (2nd team i believe) a few years ago.

Would love to see Jose and Bargs go there and Noah and Hinrich come back. That way Turk could be used more effectively and we'd destroy everyone on the glass.

Imagine Bosh/Noah rebounding frontcourt with Evans coming off the bench and Amir a little as well. We'd be so hardcore lol.
Seriously.
You guys need to stop mentioning Bargs as trade bait.
Colangelo has a love affair with him, and unless hes getting Lebron, Wade, Kobe or Joe Johnson in return he is absolutely not going anywhere.
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Seriously.
Lebron, Wade, Kobe or Joe Johnson


honestly?! wtf?!?!

one of these thing is not like the others....
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honestly?! wtf?!?!

one of these thing is not like the others....
Lol true. i just like Joe's game
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lol.

Did you read over your own post before posting it? Proposal 2 and 3 contradict each other completely.

You tell BC to not blame the coach, but suggest firing him? Yeah, because by FIRING the coach you are not blaming him at all....
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I dont think i contradict myself.

- Bryan Colangelo hired an incompetent monkey.
- He blamed SMitch for his poorly put-together team's performance
- I suppose he'll easily blame it on baldy for the raptor's recent misfortunes.
- Whether he blames it on baldy or not, he's still an incompetent monkey.
- Incompetent monkeys belong on T.V. as commentators, not as professional coaches.
- Fire him because Triano givin' it 100% is like a Van Gundy givin' it 5%.
- You can't blame a monkey if he's a monkey. He is who he is. He's never going to have human intelligence. Triano has sub-human basketball IQ. It's always going to be that way.
- SMitch was an actual coach but he got canned. Triano will try hard but he just doesn't know how to teach basketball.

- Who's to blame? Bryan. He hired a monkey as a coach. He put together a soft team that can't play defense if they tried their darndest. They will try... but it's never going to be good enough.

Point made. Fire the coach but stop blaming the people who hold the position for the team's misfortunes. It's like signing an armless man to a 10 year $250 Million Major League Baseball contract and then getting mad at him for having a 0.000 batting average. Stop setting people up for failure.

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bargs for oden if portland is dumb enough

or Calderon for miller and fernandez

and dump hedo off to the highest bidder, any bidder, he's garbage

hinrich, you stay away, enough stiffs already
None of that will happen thankfully.

Hinrich is garbage to you, yet you wanna trade Bargnani for Bejamin Button?
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This thread is fucked up:

One sentence you say fire Jay Triano, the next you're telling BC that he needs to stop blaming the coach.

BTW, when has Bryan ever come out and blamed his coach for anything?
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None of that will happen thankfully.

Hinrich is garbage to you, yet you wanna trade Bargnani for Bejamin Button?
Hinrich and Oden are both solid players.

Greg "old man" Oden is a beast, and I would definitely trade Bargs to get him. The only problem right now is that he is having trouble staying on the court. But, really, Bargs also has that problem lately. Overall, Oden has more upside than Bargs, because he can do something at both ends of the court. Oden is better at what he does well (rebounding and defense) than Bargnani is at what he does well (score). More importantly, Oden's weaker points (scoring) are less problematic than Bargnani's weaker points (defense and rebounding).

In less than 25 mpg, Oden is averaging 11.6 ppg, 8.4 rpg, and 2.4 blks. Oden's stats are nice when projected out over 36 minutes. All he needs is a little more discipline. And over the past little while he's shown that he is learning.

Oden would be a good fit next to Bosh. It would probably be easier for Portland to get Bosh than it would be for the Raps to get Oden.

Sorry for going off topic - probably should have posted this somewhere else.

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BTW, when has Bryan ever come out and blamed his coach for anything?
when he fired the other one wise guy
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when he fired the other one wise guy
So he came out and said it was Sam's fault? Give me a break, plus that was a year ago, who cares at this point. BTW, be more specific about which coach you're talking about?

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