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Old 01-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Notice an interesting trend: none of Toronto head coaches (awesome or otherwise) has held another head coaching position in the NBA after being let go in Toronto. Not a single one.

Just like most players who played here play worse after leaving town. Billups, Hump and T-Mac being the exceptions that come to mind.
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:25 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Actually, Darell Walker coached in Washington and Brendan Malone coached in Cleveland.
Really? I don't think either been actually hired to do the job. Can you verify that they weren't simply an assistant who'd been an interim solution via "field promotion"? 'Cause that don't count.
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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VC's best came in Toronto. Bosh? Jack? CV? Are you implying they are playing better since leaving here?
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:29 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Really? I don't think either been actually hired to do the job. Can you verify that they weren't simply an assistant who'd been an interim solution via "field promotion"? 'Cause that don't count.
Just looked 'em up - yep, interims, both.
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Really? I don't think either been actually hired to do the job. Can you verify that they weren't simply an assistant who'd been an interim solution via "field promotion"? 'Cause that don't count.
Malone was an interim hiring, but Walker was hired from outside the organization as a mid-season replacement when Gar Heard was canned.
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Malone was an interim hiring, but Walker was hired from outside the organization as a mid-season replacement when Gar Heard was canned.
Well, if you call a "call-up" mid-season from CBA for 38 games a "hiring from from outside the organization", which it techically was - so be it.

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Me, personally, I won't count this as head-coaching job.

Acie, you can pick nits all you like, but my point still stands, doesn't it?
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:48 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I'm not picking anything, except for my nose.

Your point stands, but your original post didn't say the couldn't be interims.
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:57 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Forget about friggin' interims, dude...

My point was that we haven't done all that well hiring head coaches, as the rest of the league doesn't seem to think a world of them after they are done here.
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I agree, although I'm surprised no one ever gave Butch Carter another shot.

Also, we've also only hired two coaches with previous NBA head coaching experience.
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I agree, although I'm surprised no one ever gave Butch Carter another shot.

Also, we've also only hired two coaches with previous NBA head coaching experience.
That's kind of what happens when you try and steal your boss's job.... I liked Butch, but he got a little power hungry
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I agree, although I'm surprised no one ever gave Butch Carter another shot.

Also, we've also only hired two coaches with previous NBA head coaching experience.
Well, Minny was Casey's first stint as a head coach - we've hired him, haven't we? Also, look at the others who've come up the assistants' ranks in the last decade, like Johnson, Frank, Carlisle - all have been hired as head coaches more than once.

It just seems that our team has a penchant of picking wrong people for their first NBA head-coaching job.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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It's likely not easy finding an experienced coach that wants to come to a bad team. And unless you have a proven pedigree, you're going to be asked to take the reigns on one of the leftover teams.

Johnson and Frank have done so, and I'm not sure that it worked out for them all that well. I would say the biggest thing holding Sam back is that he doesn't have a work ethic that can match a guy like Casey, and you really need that. He's got too much other shit on the go and is likely happy not coaching unless he gets a plum job.
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