Daily Raptor Dish - 25.03.10
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Raptors get a big BOOOO!


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Coming off a tougher-than-it-should-have-been win in Minnesota, Raptors head coach Jay Triano was feeling good about the way his team was sharing the basketball.
Wednesday night Triano saw a clinic in how a team moves the basketball for better shots and unfortunately for him, it wasn’t the Raptors staging the clinic.
Led by an often overlooked top-flight point guard in Deron Williams, the share-first Utah Jazz had the Raptors running in circles for much of the night, chasing the ball around the perimeter and back again before the Jazz would invariably find the open man for a jumper in a humbling 113-87 Raptors loss.
Not surprisingly, the Raptors were booed off the court after this one.
From a Jazz standpoint, it was picture-perfect, with every member of coach Jerry Sloan’s starting five coming out of the first half with between six and eight field-goal attempts.
Some, like Mehmet Okur and Williams, got to the line more often than their teammates but everyone was involved.
By end of the quarter, the Jazz was up by 16 and for all intents and purposes the game was over.
By game’s end, the starting five was all in double digits and well rested, with the reserves, even the most hardcore NBA follower would have trouble identifying, getting healthy minutes.



Raptors are soft to the core


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There’s no point in beating around the bush, mincing any words or going through the futile exercise of sugar-coating.
The Raptors are too soft and until this culture changes, nothing of any substance will be achieved.
The fear is not whether the Raptors can win a playoff series, assuming they even qualify for the post-season, but whether Chris Bosh has seen enough of this team that is prone to being soft.
At the heart of this issue is the team’s core group.
Bryan Colangelo remade the roster last off-season, but he kept his three key pieces in Bosh, Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon.
Hedo Turkoglu was acquired at considerable cost, adding a fourth piece that has yet to play up to its billing.
Bosh can simply walk away from it all, but until he decides on his future the Raptors have to find a way to summon more out of their core.
How one transforms soft into tough is like trying to get Bargnani to rebound the ball more or attack the basket rather than settle for jumpers.
A culture doesn’t change overnight and nor does it get altered when Reggie Evans and Antoine Wright are acquired in trades.
Evans has moments as does Wright, but neither has been around long enough to fully impose their will.
Wright gives it his all, but there are times when he goes beyond what he’s capable of.
Like Wednesday night against Utah, when he went through a stretch where he took more attempts from the field than Bosh.
Evans will retrieve the occasional miss, but at times thinks he’s an offensive threat and gets careless with the ball.
The Jazz came to town as a team that prides itself on execution, defence and team play.
Above everything else, Utah is tough and has created a culture of toughness because Jerry Sloan has been able to call the shots and has the backing of management.
For most of the night, Utah simply carved the Raptors.







Raptors lack fire and sizzle against Jazz


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Chris Bosh stood at his locker, lamenting the lack of fight in the Raptors after the 113-87 beat-down administered by the Utah Jazz. But if the questioners were looking for answers, there would be none forthcoming because Bosh can’t quite figure the obvious lack of intensity with any degree of certainty.
“We didn’t come to play,” he said, stating the obvious after another disheartening outcome left the Raptors at 35-35 on the season. “Yeah, they’re good, but we have to take the mentality of ‘who cares, we’re still going to win this game’ and I don’t think we have that fire right now.”
The alarming part is no one knows if the Raptors, clinging precariously to the eighth and final Eastern Conference playoff spot with a dozen games left in the season, have enough in them to find that “fire” Bosh alluded to.
They were soundly beaten by a better team but the lack of urgency was palpable, stunning, really, for a team fighting for its playoff life.
They could not stop Deron Williams, who had 18 points and 16 assists and could do nothing on the offensive end, either.
Williams had two more assists than the Raptors team did in total as he simply toyed with whoever was guarding him.
“We could not contain Deron Williams from the start of the game,” said Toronto coach Jay Triano. “He goes out (of the game), we get it to 14; he comes back in, it’s 20. He just goes where he wants to go, does what he wants to do, delivers the ball to everybody. His line is deceiving; 18 (points) and 16 (assists). He was better than that.
“Deron went wherever he wanted on the floor and got whoever he wanted an open look.”
Just before Bosh questioned the team’s fight, Jose Calderon stood up and took responsibility for Williams’s dominating night.
“He got me in the first quarter like three times in a row or something like that,” said Calderon. “After I was a little bit better in the second half but he’s a tough guy to guard and he had a good game.
“It was too easy and it was kind of a straight line (to the basket for Williams) sometimes so it was my fault; what are you going to do, it happens?”
But to suggest it was only Williams, or only Calderon, who determined the outcome of the game is folly. The Jazz are, as Triano said twice, “bigger, faster, stronger” than the Raptors and that goes for mental agility as well as physical prowess.







Raptors routed by Jazz


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For all the talk of loading teams with max-salary players – which will be the theme of this summer’s free-agency period, with Bosh as one of the focal points – it’s a lesson worth noting.
“You don’t have to spend a lot of money to get talent,” Bosh said yesterday. “There’s a lot of talent in this league and there’s guys who are hungry to play well. If you get guys who have that ambition to be the best player they can be and they want to be good players, that’s the best mix you can have.”
And as for advanced tactics, the Jazz are perhaps the least fancy team in the league.
“I knew the scouting report long before I looked at it yesterday, from being an assistant coach and scouting them four or five years ago,” Triano said. “It’s the same stuff over and over, and it hasn’t changed for 15 years.”
Still, the Jazz are poised for their third 50-win season in four years, and 13th in their past 21.
The Raptors, now in their 15th season, are still seeking their first, and it won’t be coming this year. More changes probably will though.






Jazz walk all over Raptors' weak defence


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Anger? Anger can be used as a tool. Anger means you still care, and you still think a situation should - and can be - changed.
Chris Bosh did not sound angry after his team was run out of its own gym for the second straight home game last night. Resigned might be too much of an extreme the other way, but the Toronto Raptors forward was certainly closer to that end of the spectrum.
The Raptors lost 113-87 to the Utah Jazz, and Bosh was asked if he could supply the necessary fire to his teammates.
"I can't instill it in guys, you know what I'm saying?" Bosh said. "You have to have it on your own. As much as I would like to - as much as I'd like to do everything, I can't do everything. Personally, you have to bring something to the plate."
And with that, Bosh was off to celebrations for his 26th birthday, along with several of those lacking-in-fire teammates. The partying makes sense: a birthday comes along just once a year, but these outcomes have become commonplace for the 35-35 Raptors. Letting each loss take its proper toll might lead to a serious bout of the blues.






Jazz: 'On a mission'


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If they have to clear out of EnergySolutions Arena for the NCAA Tournament, the Jazz have resolved that coming home with anything short of a 3-0 mark from their last Eastern Conference trip of the season is unacceptable.
They took the first step Wednesday night, pulverizing the Toronto Raptors 113-87 at Air Canada Centre for their third consecutive victory. The Jazz never trailed and built a 27-point lead in what appeared the toughest game of their trip going in.
"These are all winnable games, but they're also dangerous ballgames," Deron Williams said. "I thought this was the most important one just to set the tone, set the tempo for the whole trip. I thought we did a great job."
The Jazz had seven players score in double figures, led by Williams with 18 points and 16 assists and Carlos Boozer with 18 points and 11 rebounds.



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Old 03-25-2010, 08:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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and i was sure one of the headlines was going to be "Jazz have Raptors singing the blues".
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The National Post and the Globe and Mail like to publish the same article twice under different titles.

So your assumption was correct. There was "Raptors fall for the same old Jazz" and "Williams hits the right notes for Jazz‎".
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Is anyone else been wondering, since Bosh came back from injury if he kind of checked out?

His FG% has been pretty lousy.
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Is anyone else been wondering, since Bosh came back from injury if he kind of checked out?

His FG% has been pretty lousy.
I said that over a week ago when we were on the road. I was told by most that "he was coming back from injury".

But he looks like he cares less and less and he looks like he doesn't believe in this team at all. He's back to settling for J's and not getting to the line as much. I believe he's checked out.

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I said that over a week ago when we were on the road. I was told by most that "he was coming back from injury".

But he looks like he cares less and less and he looks like he doesn't believe in this team at all. He's back to settling for J's and not getting to the line as much. I believe he's checked out.
No, you were told he was still hurt and had no legs underneath him. He still has absolutely no explosiveness whatsoever. When's the last time you saw him decisively get to the basket?
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No, you were told he was still hurt, which I believe he is. He has absolutely no explosiveness whatsoever. When's the last time you saw him decisively get to the basket?
And that either means he's still hurt, or is settling for jumpers. Nobody knows at this point which it is.
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No, you were told he was still hurt and had no legs underneath him. He still has absolutely no explosiveness whatsoever. When's the last time you saw him decisively get to the basket?
I saw him decisively get to the basket last night in the fourth quarter when we were down by like 20 points.....because he got "angry".

In order for Chris Bosh to be a good player, this needs to be his ratio:

70% Drives and Post-ups
30% Jump-shots

If he drives more, he'll get to the line, we can slow the game down, and have a chance to get back on D maybe?

But who are we kidding, right?
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I saw him decisively get to the basket last night in the fourth quarter when we were down by like 20 points.....because he got "angry".

In order for Chris Bosh to be a good player, this needs to be his ratio:

70% Drives and Post-ups
30% Jump-shots

If he drives more, he'll get to the line, we can slow the game down, and have a chance to get back on D maybe?

But who are we kidding, right?

A couple games ago too he went in for a reverse slam. He's practicing, so i don't think he's all that hurt if at all. I just think he's become complaissant, and is settling like he has all to often in the past. The problem is his Jump shots aren't going in and he's still settling.
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The National Post and the Globe and Mail like to publish the same article twice under different titles.

So your assumption was correct. There was "Raptors fall for the same old Jazz" and "Williams hits the right notes for Jazz‎".
no, no... i was specifically waiting for a "jazz, blues" reference.
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Oh and another thing.

I liked Weems on the floor with Derozan. I'd rather see those guys lose than the starters win. They, you know, TRY and get rebounds. I can respect that.
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Bosh just sounds..... defeated.

I was all but sure that he was going to re-sign with us but now? I'd be shocked if he stayed TBH.

And Triano.... God love him but I can't defend him anymore. He's the polar opposite of Sam and NEITHER of them are/were right for this team. That post-game interview was pathetic. It would have spoken volumes if he would have simply declined the interview and took a fine.
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Bosh just sounds..... defeated.

I was all but sure that he was going to re-sign with us but now? I'd be shocked if he stayed TBH.

And Triano.... God love him but I can't defend him anymore. He's the polar opposite of Sam and NEITHER of them are/were right for this team. That post-game interview was pathetic. It would have spoken volumes if he would have simply declined the interview and took a fine.
Yeah, Bosh is as good as gone. And you've finally seen the light about JT. lol

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Chris's dad advised him to stay in TO, so not to worry.
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Does Bosh really want to play with the core of Bargnani, Turkoglu, and Calderon? I dont think so........................
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Does Bosh really want to play with the core of Bargnani, Turkoglu, and Calderon? I dont think so........................
If Bosh stays, which imo only has a 20-30% chance of happening, one or two of those players will be dealt this summer. I think Jose is gone this summer wether or not Bosh stays.
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If Bosh stays, which imo only has a 20-30% chance of happening, one or two of those players will be dealt this summer. I think Jose is gone this summer wether or not Bosh stays.
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