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Daily Raptor Dish - 03.04.11
Raptors fall to Bulls
Turkoglu leads Magic into ACC
The Raptors find themselves limping to the finish line, unable to compensate for their lack of depth and size, completely overmatched when a superior foe plays to its ability.
With seven games remaining to this wretched season, only a miracle will prevent the Raptors from recording 60 losses, as damning an indictment as there is in the NBA.
Had it not been for that miraculous win in Oklahoma City, no telling how deep Toronto’s road losing woes would stand.
It’s obvious these Raptors are hard-pressed to produce any kind of win, no matter where the game gets played, no matter how hard they play.
When you watch Ed Davis start and be a presence on offence, it’s hard to understand why the rookie doesn’t get more touches.
Right infront of everyone’s else, Davis is developing a nice spin move when he catches the ball on the right block.
His range on his jumper is about 15 feet and hopefully this summer, with or without the aid of a club official depending on the league’s labour status, Davis has to refine his routine and form from the foul line.
Other than getting Davis more comfortable with the ball on different spots on the floor and perhaps getting Jerryd Bayless at the point, there really is no other reason to look forward as the season wraps up.
When it comes to the Raptors, every possible question, on the court that is, has been answered.
When a guy such as Andrea Bargnani is asked to score so often, it makes one wonder why so many touches are given when so much diversity presents itself when he’s not in the lineup.
Not that Bargnani rebounds the ball, but it sure would have helped if someone could have protected the glass when Chicago’s initial attack was stopped, only to produce a basket on a second-chance opportunity.
I thought our guys played very well,’’ head coach Jay Triano would say in the aftermath of Saturday night’s
113-106 loss to the host Bulls.
Raptors youngsters come up short in loss to Bulls
A little older, a little more banged up physically, Turkoglu looms as one of the key players as the post-season looms with Orlando all but a lock to face Atlanta in the opening round.
“He’s sometimes his own worst enemy, trying to predetermine what he’s going to do and not taking in what the defence gives him,” Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy said recently of his point forward.
On Friday night, Turkoglu led Orlando with seven assists. Turkoglu would heave 11 shots with nine being attempted beyond the three-point arc.
Turkoglu drained four of his jumpers, but not a single trip to the foul line was produced.
It’s a fine line between shooting your own shot and wanting to feed a beast in the post like Howard, who is playing at such a high level he could easily go off for 50 against the Raptors tonight.
“I told him everything gets set up by his shot,” Van Gundy said of Turkoglu. “He’s a very skilled guy and when he’s playing under control and relaxed and not predetermining his move and he’s willing to shoot the ball, he’s a very tough guy to guard.”
Given his size, Turkoglu can pass over any defender.
With the Magic depleted in numbers and the team’s health status at the point so tenuous, Turkoglu has been asked to run the offence.
Against the Knicks, the Magic had Turkoglu, Howard, Jason Richardson, Earl Clark and Ryan Anderson on the floor to begin the fourth quarter.
Against the Raptors tonight, expect the ball to be in Turkoglu’s hands a lot, which can mean only that a lot of boos will be heard.
Raptors Blog by Doug Smith
Without its two longest-serving members —Jose Calderon was injured and Andrea Bargnani was not available — the Raptors were forced to start the second-youngest group in franchise history against a team many see as the cream of the Eastern Conference crop.
And while they were in the game all night, and exceeded many expectations, the kids still lost, dropping a 113-106 decision to the Bulls at the United Center.
“These guys feel like they’ve got a lot to prove and they do,” said Triano. “They’re in the early parts of their careers and every game, they’re trying to earn the respect from opponents, officials, teammates.
“They’ve got a lot of drive and I think for the most part they played real hard and real well.”
Derrick Rose had 36 points for the Bulls, while spot starter Jerryd Bayless had 26 for the Raptors and DeMar DeRozan also had 26.
The starting lineup of Bayless, 22; DeRozan, 21; James Johnson, 24; Amir Johnson, 23; and Ed Davis, 21, averaged out to 22 years and 309 days according to the Elias Sports Bureau.
The group of Bayless, DeRozan, Sonny Weems, Amir Johnson and Davis was an average of 22 years, 239 days old when it started against the Bulls in December.
“We can’t do anything in that locker room now about our age or our inexperience,” Triano said before the game. “We just have to come out and play hard and play smart.”
Bulls, Rose shut down Raptors
Reasons we (Heart) Reggie, Vol. XXVII (or some big number)
He gets called for a dubious foul for falling down with the Asik guy in the second quarter and there’s much consternation and conversation involving Jay and the refs and him during the timeout.
Well, they’re lined up to shoot the free throws and there’s some leather lung in the stands about eight rows behind us getting all getting all over him:
Reggie, of course, hears him, looks over and says:
“Shut your ass up.”
Rose leads Bulls over Raptors, 113-106
Derrick Rose remembered the celebration the last time the Chicago Bulls met Toronto. He wasn't about to let the Raptors yuck it up this time.
Rose had 36 points and 10 assists, and Chicago took another step toward the top seed in the Eastern Conference with its 15th victory in 17 games, hanging on to beat the short-handed Raptors 113-106 on Saturday night.
The Bulls lead Miami by three games and Boston by 3 1/2 . They also are within one of San Antonio for the NBA's best record after squeezing by one of the league's weakest teams.
Rose scored at least 30 for the third time in five games and got a measure of revenge for a perceived slight in a loss at Toronto in late February.
“I just remember them celebrating after they won back in Toronto,” he said.
To Rose, it was embarassing.
“When you see people celebrating when they normally don't do that if you watch other games after they win, it kind of gets to you, especially being the person that I am,” he said. “I just try to feed off of anything, where by nature I'm just a quiet guy trying to get along with a lot of people.”
Rose scores 36 in 113-106 triumph over Raptors
With leading scorer Andrea Bargnani sidelined by a sore right ankle and guard Jose Calderon staying home because of a sore left hamstring, the Raptors dropped their sixth straight.
Bayless, filling in for Calderon, and DeMar DeRozan each scored 26 points for Toronto. Leandro Barbosa added 18 points, and Ed Davis had 17 points and 11 rebounds in Bargnani's place.
"We kept the momentum at our pace," DeRozan said. "They just executed well and we made few mistakes at the end of the game."
The Bulls led by as much as 13 in the first half and were up 53-43 at the break, but the Raptors wiped that out in the third, tying it at 74 at one point before Chicago regained the lead. The Bulls got it back up to 11 in the fourth quarter and hung on after seeing it shrink to four several times.
It was 102-98 after DeRozan drove for a layup with 2:30 left, but Kyle Korver buried a 3 from the right corner with 1:40 remaining.
Then, after Bayless banked in a runner, Korver nailed a jumper at the shot-clock buzzer to make it 107-100 with just over a minute left.
The Raptors weren't quite finished as Barbosa banked in a runner.
Rose answered by nailing a floater with 26.3 seconds left to boost the lead back up to seven - 109-102 - and give the Bulls some breathing room, although he followed that with a poor defensive play. He flew out at Bayless and fouled him as he attempted a corner jumper with 20.3 seconds left.
Bayless hit both free throws after the shot was downgraded from a 3, but Korver hit two from the line and the Bulls hung on.
"You have to win different ways," Thibodeau said. "The bottom line is getting the win. They were short-handed. They played extremely well. They played hard, they played smart, they played unselfishly. They put a lot of pressure on us, and in the end, I thought we did the things that we needed to do."
Toronto vs. Orlando
Rose acquitted himself nicely during a spectacular stretch that snapped a 74-74 tie late in the third. He scored on a driving layup and a long jumper just inside the 3-point lane, then hustled back after his turnover to spectacularly block James Johnson's fast-break layup with his head just under the rim. That led to a 3-pointer from Luol Deng, who chipped in 17 points.
Still, the Raptors, whom Rose said the Bulls owed for a February road loss, hung around, trailing by four with less than two minutes left. That's when Taj Gibson — huge off the bench with 15 points and nine rebounds — tipped a Boozer miss to keep alive a possession that ended with Kyle Korver's huge 3-pointer with 1 minute, 40 seconds left. Korver added another jumper on the next possession, just beating the shot clock.
"I don't want to take away from a win because you have to win in different ways," Thibodeau said. "But at the start of the third our defense was abysmal. They're quick, very good off the dribble. We were low energy. That's where our bench helped."
For good measure, Rose blocked Leandro Barbosa's shot near the buzzer.
Hedo Turkoglu expecting to hear Raptors' boo-birds
Last month, before his team embarked on a pivotal stretch against several of the league's top squads, Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said he was content playing 10 guys before deciding how to pare down his playoff rotation.
With six games to play, though, Van Gundy simply hasn't had that option anymore.
"I couldn't play 10 guys if I wanted to right now," he said after his team's final practice Saturday before traveling to Toronto (20-55) on Sunday. "It's sort of crazy right now."
Over the past several weeks, sixth-man J.J. Redick, backup point guards Gilbert Arenas and Chris Duhon, and forward Quentin Richardson have all missed time because of injury or illness.
Redick has missed 11 straight games with a lower abdominal strain. Duhon has been out the last two games with a ligament strain in his right thumb. Arenas played five consecutive games after resting a sore left calf and knee, but has missed two games in a row with an illness. And Richardson is back on the floor, but recently missed three games with back spasms.
The Magic (48-28) will have only nine players for the third straight game Sunday.
And the knock on Turk in Toronto, before he forced his way back to the states after one season, is largely the same one that Van Gundy voices at times during Hedo's second tour in Orlando.
"He's such a great player who can be so lackadaisical," Van Gundy said. "When you see great players wasting talent, it's frustrating. Yeah, there are times when I'll start booing him."
Turk's reaction to Van Gundy's pointed comments?
As expected: A shake of the head and a quick quip to perhaps deflect more of the truth than he dare admit.
"It's not my fault that my teammates are dumb enough not to catch the ball," Turkoglu said.
The scouting report on laid-back, affable Turk hasn't changed much since he became the first Turkish-born player to make the NBA in 2000:
Great versatility one night, great chance of vanishing the next.
Toronto already has jeered Turk when he was a Raptor. Canadians had discouraging words when he returned with the Phoenix Suns, first during a preseason game last October in Vancouver.
Turkoglu thought he'd escaped the boos, considering he was playing with Canadian idol Steve Nash.
"I was shocked. I thought I'd get cheered. I was wrong," he said. "I guess that told me that in all of Canada, I'm the most-hated guy."
He'll hear another round of it as a member of the Magic.
"There's no hard feelings, no being mad or nothing. We made a decision. I moved on and they moved on. I can't be living with the past all the time," Turkoglu said.
The Magic didn't want to pay Turk top dollar in the summer of 2009. They traded for Vince Carter, and moved him to Toronto in a five-year, $53-million sign-and-trade.
Neither move worked for Turk or Carter. About a year and a half later, they were a part of a deal between Orlando and Phoenix.
Turk never wanted to play in Toronto. He first agreed to terms with Portland, using the Trail Blazers as leverage.
His stay with the Raptors was a disaster from start to finish. He came to training camp fatigued after playing for Turkey in the world championships.
Then his lackluster play was scrutinized further after he showed up briefly at a nightclub to meet a teammate after saying he was too sick to play. He later asked his agent to get him out of Toronto, and the Raps dealt him to the Suns last summer.
"I can't always be defending myself and explain to people what happened," he said. "You know what kind of player I am. You know I'm all for the team."