D-wade

JJ28 · 02-07-2010, 04:45 PM

now there is all this talk of Bosh going to this team and that team... Now jus say he stays with the raps, now u have the heat they are struggling and they really dont have a team outside of wade, y dont people talk about him moving to another team, y dont the raps make a move for wade either now or in the offseason with a sign and trade
only question i would have would be
will we be able to afford it?
and what would Miami want ?

somebody · 02-07-2010, 05:05 PM

The big different between the Heat and the Raptors is that BC is trying to convince Bosh to stay by making moves last summer and now. Riley doesn't feel he needs to make moves now to keep Wade. He has lost of cap space and will use it in the summer.

Wade will likely give the Heat a chance to convince him in the summer. Although; Wade does seem to be getting more irritate.

Wade will likely give him a chance to convince him in the summer. Although he does seem to be getting more irritated every day.

MikeToronto · 02-07-2010, 05:20 PM

Wade would have been perfect here, of course, but a team cannot possibly come up with a package for a top-three player in the entire league without that player forcing the issue.

osamu · 02-07-2010, 05:30 PM

He doesnt want to leave....thats why

**Claudius** · 02-07-2010, 06:26 PM

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Wade leave after this season. Riley has not done anything to help him beyond the championship season and that team is ridiculously bad.

If I'm Miami I'd be more worried about Wade leaving than trying to attract Bosh.

n30tokyo · 02-07-2010, 06:53 PM

who doesn't want d-wade? although i've been watching MIA games lately, he's a freakin' ballhog...

Dutches · 02-07-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by n30tokyo

who doesn't want d-wade? although i've been watching MIA games lately, he's a freakin' ballhog...

That's only cuz the rest of his team is straight ass and he doesn't trust anyone else with the ball.

Man Rafer should b putting up serious numbers WITH Wade, but he doesn't cuz Wade KNOWS his team is shit, and the only way they're going to win is by him running the offensive, defensive, and waterboy games...

Realistically Wade should be shitting himself out of his Miami uniform to leave that town. There are at least 5-10 teams that would be instant contenders if they added him. We're just another one of them, altho we are definitely in a better spot than most others.

rapsmannn · 02-07-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by n30tokyo

who doesn't want d-wade? although i've been watching MIA games lately, he's a freakin' ballhog...

i've watched some to, the team seems to play better when he is on the bench

plus he is really down on his teammates, when something bad happens he's the first one to put his head down or clearly angry

plus he is turning into a black hole on that team,

Dutches · 02-07-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn

i've watched some to, the team seems to play better when he is on the bench

plus he is really down on his teammates, when something bad happens he's the first one to put his head down or clearly angry

plus he is turning into a black hole on that team,

Man i'd be pissed too if i had to work with Jermaine "Cinderella Knees" Oneal and "Skip To My Bad Attitude" Alston. For fucks sake, the teams second option is MICHAEL BEASLEY! I think he has every right to be mad.

Best thing for him is to gtfo of Miami. Even if that means playing where its cold lol

jeffb · 02-07-2010, 07:38 PM

Well this was posted today at RealGm

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Now mods before you lock this I hope you understand I have sincere intentions and this source is very credible. My source inside the Raptors organization in the high ranks who is a family member of mines claims that of the three biggest free agents out there, only one has the highest likelihood of leaving their current team. Wade is reportedly extremely unhappy with his team and is set on leaving to a team that is taking a serious stance on building a playoff contending team and is looking to be the one to push them over the top. Now I don't know the salary implications of what exactly is going to happen but Wade seems to be considering Toronto, Phoenix and New York as the best destination for him. Furthermore, my source tells me that he knows for a fact that BC has talked to Wade's agent on many occasions. Now I realize this may sound absurd but I hope Raptor fans will understand my intentions.

Also, if it's anything, which i'm not sure its not. I broke the Devean George trade Bellinelli trade on the Golden State board in the summer if anyone remembers but as a different account: MidKnight. I don't have access to that account anymore but I hope that Mods can somehow check the IP that i'm reporting from and verify that it was my old account. It was from the same source so it is pretty reliable.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=927924&start=0

Edit* And to the haters the George/Belli source was very real; at the time I didn't want to claim it as true because it was "in the works" so I thought it would be funny to see what Golden State fans would think of the trade before it went through. Just have an OPEN mind for this rumor.

RealGM • View topic - Inside Source: Wade to Toronto?

moremilk · 02-07-2010, 07:42 PM

Wade would cost us bargnani, derozan and change
he would have to force the issue there though, and be willing to come here

Dutches · 02-07-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk

Wade would cost us bargnani, derozan and change
he would have to force the issue there though, and be willing to come here

I agree we would have to put up one hell of a package, but I can't see BC parting with Bargs. His contract is fantastic for the production he puts up, and he's BC's fav project.

I'd be more than willing to give up Derozan in any deal that involves Wade tho lol.

jeffb · 02-07-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutches

I agree we would have to put up one hell of a package, but I can't see BC parting with Bargs. His contract is fantastic for the production he puts up, and he's BC's fav project.

I'd be more than willing to give up Derozan in any deal that involves Wade tho lol.

Package? No, we'd have to sign him as a FA and go wayyyyyyyyyyy over the tax........ain't gonna happen.

Dutches · 02-07-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Package? No, we'd have to sign him as a FA and go wayyyyyyyyyyy over the tax........ain't gonna happen.

Yes, It actually would happen. I was at a press conference last season (after the J.O trade when we went 3-0) and BC said that MLSE was more than prepared to go over the luxury tax if the person we were going over the tax to get was worth it. Wade is beyond worth it. They'd make their $ back on jersey sales alone....

Jack
Wade
Turk
Bosh
Bargs
Hello multiple championships...

jeffb · 02-07-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutches

Yes, It actually would happen. I was at a press conference last season (after the J.O trade when we went 3-0) and BC said that MLSE was more than prepared to go over the luxury tax if the person we were going over the tax to get was worth it. Wade is beyond worth it. They'd make their $ back on jersey sales alone....

Jack
Wade
Turk
Bosh
Bargs
Hello multiple championships...

You really think that MLSE would be willing to go that far over the tax? I highly doubt it. But IF they were willing, Wade would be nuts not to do it imo. Can you imagine hime playing here with Bosh/Bargs/Hedo +our depth?

MikeToronto · 02-07-2010, 08:08 PM

People, people, when oh when are you going to read the CBA?

We cannot sign Wade as a FA unless he is willing to accept the contract that'd start with the MLE! Can you see him doing that for the chance to play in Toronto? Neither can I.

If he were to seriously want to play here, he'd have to push Riley to do a sign-and-trade deal with Toronto. As I have mentioned before, there is no good package for Wade from Miami's standpoint, even if Bosh is coming the other way, and that last one wouldn't make sense for TO or Wade himself. So, for this miracle to happen, Riley would have to agree to a package off of our current roster that doesn't include Bosh - can you suggest something realistic here? And no, he won't want Bargnani, not his type of a player, and he won't want Turkoglu either.

Dark Knight · 02-07-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

You really think that MLSE would be willing to go that far over the tax? I highly doubt it. But IF they were willing, Wade would be nuts not to do it imo. Can you imagine hime playing here with Bosh/Bargs/Hedo +our depth?

We wouldn't be THAT far over the tax, likely around 20 mill. over, which a lot of good teams are around (i.e. Lakers)

Also, I remember you and I having this debate before and you took the side of MLSE is willing to spend money.

jeffb · 02-07-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

We wouldn't be THAT far over the tax, likely around 20 mill. over, which a lot of good teams are around (i.e. Lakers)

Also, I remember you and I having this debate before and you took the side of MLSE is willing to spend money.

I have a feeling they might go over a little, but 20Mil?? Like i said i doubt it.

Dutches · 02-07-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

You really think that MLSE would be willing to go that far over the tax? I highly doubt it. But IF they were willing, Wade would be nuts not to do it imo. Can you imagine hime playing here with Bosh/Bargs/Hedo +our depth?

I really do think they'd do it Jeff.

MLSE needs to prove to its entire fan base (Leafs, Raps, TFC all included) that it plans on fielding championship caliber teams. Not just WINNING teams, but CHAMPIONSHIP teams. The Raps are the closest out of the 3. The Leafs are, arguably, on their way, and Toronto FC is still a joke, but that will also slowly change. If Wade really is considering free-agency, he'd be stupid not to have Toronto in his top 5, maybe even top 3 destinations, some people will say i sound like a "homer" here, but realistically, we have proved in the last month that we can play with the big dogs.

I think the general public in Toronto is SICK of losing constantly. MLSE has to field winners or their at risk of fucking up their own cash flow. The exposure worldwide (never mind in North America) would be absolutely insane. Wade's contract would pay for itself with jersey sales alone. Bosh and Wade on the same team in CANADA!? The NBA would be shitting its pants trying to re-arrange the schedule so that more Raps games would be nationally televised.

Money is NOT an issue for MLSE. Wade is an extremely smart and worthy investment, IF he truly wants out of Miami and wants to play here. MLSE would pay if it meant acquiring a guy of his talent.

MikeToronto · 02-07-2010, 08:16 PM

No one can read anymore, eh?

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02-07-2010, 05:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
somebody >blank< Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 32 Representing:	The big different between the Heat and the Raptors is that BC is trying to convince Bosh to stay by making moves last summer and now. Riley doesn't feel he needs to make moves now to keep Wade. He has lost of cap space and will use it in the summer. Wade will likely give the Heat a chance to convince him in the summer. Although; Wade does seem to be getting more irritate. Wade will likely give him a chance to convince him in the summer. Although he does seem to be getting more irritated every day.

02-07-2010, 05:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
MikeToronto Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,073 Representing:	Wade would have been perfect here, of course, but a team cannot possibly come up with a package for a top-three player in the entire league without that player forcing the issue.

02-07-2010, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
osamu a fan of scratching his bare bum and smelling his fingers. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 444 Representing:	He doesnt want to leave....thats why

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Claudius contemplating The Killing Joke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burkina Faso, Disputed Zone Posts: 9,075 Representing:	I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Wade leave after this season. Riley has not done anything to help him beyond the championship season and that team is ridiculously bad. If I'm Miami I'd be more worried about Wade leaving than trying to attract Bosh.

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n30tokyo is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: t.o. Posts: 862 Representing:	who doesn't want d-wade? although i've been watching MIA games lately, he's a freakin' ballhog...

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moremilk whatever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 10,417 Representing:	Wade would cost us bargnani, derozan and change he would have to force the issue there though, and be willing to come here

02-07-2010, 08:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
MikeToronto Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,073 Representing:	People, people, when oh when are you going to read the CBA? We cannot sign Wade as a FA unless he is willing to accept the contract that'd start with the MLE! Can you see him doing that for the chance to play in Toronto? Neither can I. If he were to seriously want to play here, he'd have to push Riley to do a sign-and-trade deal with Toronto. As I have mentioned before, there is no good package for Wade from Miami's standpoint, even if Bosh is coming the other way, and that last one wouldn't make sense for TO or Wade himself. So, for this miracle to happen, Riley would have to agree to a package off of our current roster that doesn't include Bosh - can you suggest something realistic here? And no, he won't want Bargnani, not his type of a player, and he won't want Turkoglu either.

02-07-2010, 08:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
MikeToronto Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,073 Representing:	No one can read anymore, eh?