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Old 05-23-2013, 03:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'll be dancing in the streets if Ujiri is hired by this weekend or next.

I dread the GM search going on forever with the increasingly sickening feeling that Stefanski is going to get the job.
agreed, some reason whenever i hear stefanski speak i just get bad vibes, he seems like a stiff, i could be completely wrong but i just get that kind of vibe from him

and the sooner the new GM gets here the sooner he can start working things out and try to fix this thing
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Some are saying that it would be tough for anyone to take a job where Colangelo were still hanging around as the GM. And I think Sam Mitchell said no one would want to take that job.

But really, how many of Ujiri and the others could resist coming here knowing they are willing to spend significantly into luxury tax? How many teams are doing that, especially now with a more punitive tax?

This is what we've been waiting for as Raps fans. They don't have to overspend right now and they don't have to spend stupidly, but it means joining the big leagues.

It is one of the ways to become a superteam and it is one of the ways to become a destination for free agents.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Some are saying that it would be tough for anyone to take a job where Colangelo were still hanging around as the GM. And I think Sam Mitchell said no one would want to take that job.

But really, how many of Ujiri and the others could resist coming here knowing they are willing to spend significantly into luxury tax? How many teams are doing that, especially now with a more punitive tax?

This is what we've been waiting for as Raps fans. They don't have to overspend right now and they don't have to spend stupidly, but it means joining the big leagues.

It is one of the ways to become a superteam and it is one of the ways to become a destination for free agents.
There isn't any imperative to spend into the luxury tax. Memphis isn't in the tax. Indiana isn't in the tax. Is San Antonio in the tax? ( not sure, but I don't think so) That's 3 of the 4 teams still playing, so spending guaranties only that you can spend, but maybe not wisely. The DD/AB/LF contracts look like unwise spending, so thank heavens BC isn't controlling the purse strings anymore or we would be in deep deep doodoo.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:44 AM   #25 (permalink)
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There isn't any imperative to spend into the luxury tax. Memphis isn't in the tax. Indiana isn't in the tax. Is San Antonio in the tax? ( not sure, but I don't think so) That's 3 of the 4 teams still playing, so spending guaranties only that you can spend, but maybe not wisely. The DD/AB/LF contracts look like unwise spending, so thank heavens BC isn't controlling the purse strings anymore or we would be in deep deep doodoo.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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There isn't any imperative to spend into the luxury tax. Memphis isn't in the tax. Indiana isn't in the tax. Is San Antonio in the tax? ( not sure, but I don't think so) That's 3 of the 4 teams still playing, so spending guaranties only that you can spend, but maybe not wisely. The DD/AB/LF contracts look like unwise spending, so thank heavens BC isn't controlling the purse strings anymore or we would be in deep deep doodoo.
Yeah, I understand. Basically, we should hope that they can build a contender properly and be unafraid to spend to push over the top. You may be lucky enough to be in a season where one of the "big 3" is injured badly enough to have a shot. But you can't watch your window to be champions slowly close because you are afraid of the tax. Ultimatey some of the teams like OKC, Indiana and Memphis may do just that.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:23 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Having the go-ahead to go into the luxury is one thing, but putting yourself in a position to make use of this is another. I'm hoping that Ujiri will be the kind of GM that maxmimizes his asset control and correctly evaluates his trades based on both long and short term potential.

I think if we pull off a trade like Bargs + Fields for Gasol, not only would it be a good short term move that brings a talented, veteran to the team, but it gives us a 19 million dollar expiring. We can then use that capspace to target a top free agent or resign Gasol to a more managable deal.

While I was annoyed at some things BC did, I think his trade decisions have been pretty impressive in this regard. Rudy Gay's contract might be big, but is nearing its end and he has the option to opt out this offseason and negotiate a nice long term deal with us, similar to what Iggy is expected to do with Denver. At first, I was frustrated that BC didnt accept the Bargnani for Boozer deal, but that was a trade that would only further handicap us financially, not to mention that better deals could be avaliable in the offseason.

Bascially I'm rambling on about nothing, but if we sign Ujiri and then make that Pau Gasol deal, I will be a very happy Raptors fan!

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Old 05-24-2013, 06:02 AM   #28 (permalink)
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well if doug is right this couldn't have worked out any better for the Raptors organization
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
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There isn't any imperative to spend into the luxury tax. Memphis isn't in the tax. Indiana isn't in the tax. Is San Antonio in the tax? ( not sure, but I don't think so) That's 3 of the 4 teams still playing, so spending guaranties only that you can spend, but maybe not wisely. The DD/AB/LF contracts look like unwise spending, so thank heavens BC isn't controlling the purse strings anymore or we would be in deep deep doodoo.
Yes, MEM is in the tax by about 3 million. SAS are in the tax by almost 10 million. MIA is 14 million over the tax. Indy is 4 million shy.

So, that's 3 of the 4 teams still playing. With the two favourites double digits into the tax.

Your point was what exactly?
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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There isn't any imperative to spend into the luxury tax. Memphis isn't in the tax. Indiana isn't in the tax. Is San Antonio in the tax? ( not sure, but I don't think so) That's 3 of the 4 teams still playing, so spending guaranties only that you can spend, but maybe not wisely. The DD/AB/LF contracts look like unwise spending, so thank heavens BC isn't controlling the purse strings anymore or we would be in deep deep doodoo.
First off, it looks like you need an education.... HoopsHype - NBA Salaries

5 of 8 teams in the east

5 of 8 teams in the west

Were all into Lux territory at the beginning of the playoffs......being in the lux tax gives you the opportunity to have a better team period. The teams that make the playoffs and are not in the Lux tax usually have cheep contracts, stars on rookie deals ect....tell me, when was the last time a non LUX team won the NBA championship (im thinking possibly before the Lux tax was even introduced)?

Just a quick glance and its pretty pathetic the small smaple of teams that have won the championship since 1980.....LA, chicago, Boston, Detroit and SA are pretty much the only teams to win the championship in the last 33 years....pretty sad fact. Also, every one of those teams were big spenders.

SO....the rule of the NBA is, just to think about wining a championship, you need to be one of the top spending teams in the league.....which we are far from. So if TL is actually serious about making this team "a contender" then its time to spend some big cash. If we think, even for a second that we are going to create a contender while also staying under the Lux Cap....well then were going to need the next 3-4 First, First round picks just to dream about being a "contender" while also staying under the Lux tax, Money talks in the NBA and this team never spends any (over lux tax)

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