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Old 09-18-2009, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Not long left now for the start of preseason at the ACC and things are going to look very different for the Toronto Raptors after a summer of wheeling and dealing, some successful and some perhaps not so.

But although the big splash came with the signing of free agent Hedo Turkoglu to a big contract, it is still going to be the big three from last season who are going to be counted on if the Raps are to make the post-season.

Chris Bosh, Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani are still in town and can be relied upon for starters numbers, but what happens at the other starting spot, assuming Hedo plays the three, as seems likely.

Well, it appears coach Jay Triano is set to hand the two hole to rookie Demar DeRozan, but is the rookie out of USC really ready to be an NBA defensive standout – it’s something he will have to be alongside pass-happy Calderon and Turkoglu, who has never really been known for his stout defensive work.

The 20-year-old is a physical specimen for sure, but there are plenty of those doing the rounds in the Developmental League after coming into the pro’s with big reputations in college.

But it is probably an experiment worth trying – he’s not going to be asked for a huge offensive contribution so should be able to concentrate on defense as long as he is playing with the first-team.

The real test could come when his more-illustrious colleagues are sitting on the bench and he has to defend and be a first or second option going down court as well.

However Triano knows he has some reliable options to come off the bench, and start if DeRozan flames, and Jarrett Jack will back him up with some three-point shooting – something DeRozan lacks in his arsenal.

Antoine Wright can also be of use and there are a couple of wildcards going into camp who could be very useful as 11th or 12th men on the bench – mainly Marco Belinelli who is a real sharp-shooter who needs to be on a team like Toronto more than he needed to be on Nellie’s Roundabout at Golden State.

NBA betting expects plenty of points to be scored in Toronto this coming season – just don’t complain if the defense is a little lacking!!
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I would think that Belli would be more apt to back him up than Jack.

Seeing how Jack is a pg first and Belli a sg first, and Belli being the better shooter and all.
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i don't think of jack as a combo guard, but i do believe he offers more to that position than beli does. we need defence and a constant threat of penetration coming from the wing. if we don't get that from either wright, demar and jack (the three players i believe are most suitable for the SG minutes) we will remain to be an exclusive perimeter team. from what i know and seen of beli, he doesn't help us on that regard. he might be a great scoring threat, but we need those other elements in order to be successful.
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He's way undervaluing Wright. The guy is a defensive stud who can also put the ball on the floor and attack the basket in the offensive end. Wright will be in the starting lineup when all is said and done. He's too perfect a match for that starting unit to be on the bench. This year will be all about winning.

Second priority will be to develop Demar. That can be done just as easily off of the bench. He just doesn't have the defensive experience that will be required from our guard spot, in the starting lineup.
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I would think that Belli would be more apt to back him up than Jack.

Seeing how Jack is a pg first and Belli a sg first, and Belli being the better shooter and all.
I doubt Jack will play a ton of minutes @ SG. Jack isn't a great shooter and is more of a PG. Not only that, Derozan/Beli will probably eat up roughly 35MPG and i'm guessing Wright will get the majority of the remaining minutes at the SG spot after that.
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He's way undervaluing Wright. The guy is a defensive stud who can also put the ball on the floor and attack the basket in the offensive end. Wright will be in the starting lineup when all is said and done. He's too perfect a match for that starting unit to be on the bench. This year will be all about winning.

Second priority will be to develop Demar. That can be done just as easily off of the bench. He just doesn't have the defensive experience that will be required from our guard spot, in the starting lineup.
His offense is not good, he's a 5ppg player. He's here for his defense and that's it. He's a guy that's averaged more then 23MPG only once in his career (avg. 19MPG for his career) and i doubt that'll change here...i'm guessing he gets roughly 20-23MPG this season and most of those will be playing behind Turkoglu.

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His offense is not good, he's a 5ppg player. He's here for his defense and that's it. He's a guy that's averaged more then 23MPG only once in his career (avg. 19MPG for his career) and i doubt that'll change here...i'm guessing he gets roughly 20-23MPG this season and most of those will be playing behind Turkoglu.
He averaged about 10 ppg in feb-mar when he started to play alot more. He had 3 games of over 20 points last season. I'll agree that's not huge numbers but the thing about his scoring is the way he scores, dribble drives, fast breaks and quick cuts along the baseline, all would fit perfectly with our starting unit because they are all things we need there. Most important is the fact he can do that, while also being a defensive stopper on the first unit.
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His offense is not good, he's a 5ppg player. He's here for his defense and that's it. He's a guy that's averaged more then 23MPG only once in his career (avg. 19MPG for his career) and i doubt that'll change here...i'm guessing he gets roughly 20-23MPG this season and most of those will be playing behind Turkoglu.
he's a five point player because he wasn't part of the offensive system. i watched wright play in college and he's not going to be an offensive liability out on the court.

regardless, who cares about whether he scores five point a game. it means absolutely nothing when he's going to be constantly complemented with offensively capable players out on the floor with him. he fills a need that hasn't been filled since doug christie was a raptor.
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