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Old 03-28-2011, 01:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Are you some kind of blood-related family member or something? Have you had a conversation with Andrea regarding his passion for the game? Please, do tell.

And Bargs does box out. Like 90% of the time. Granted, he could be more aggressive, but rebounding sometimes comes down to lucky bounces.
ok so u believe Bargs is doing everything in his power and gets 5 boards a game. good on ya
and as far as knowing about his passion for rebounding, i think he made it quite clear when he said its called basketball not reboundball. wasn't aware that i needed to be his relative to know that information
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ok so u believe Bargs is doing everything in his power and gets 5 boards a game. good on ya
and as far as knowing about his passion for rebounding, i think he made it quite clear when he said its called basketball not reboundball. wasn't aware that i needed to be his relative to know that information
Well of course they're is still a lot of room for improvement, but I wouldn't say that he isn't trying. He made it clear last summer that he was going to focus on improving his rebounding. He put the time in, now its time to show what he learned.
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Are you some kind of blood-related family member or something? Have you had a conversation with Andrea regarding his passion for the game? Please, do tell.

And Bargs does box out. Like 90% of the time. Granted, he could be more aggressive, but rebounding sometimes comes down to lucky bounces.
Blood relative? WTF does that have to do with his effort, which he lacks in spades? And you ask what the significance of 5 more rebounds is? It's the difference between what he does now an DOUBLING what he currently. And if you don't understand that then nothing more need be said. Hell I'd be ok with 7-8rpg and more actual effort.
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Well of course they're is still a lot of room for improvement, but I wouldn't say that he isn't trying. He made it clear last summer that he was going to focus on improving his rebounding. He put the time in, now its time to show what he learned.
well and entire season is almost over and we're still waiting to see what he learned over the summer?
anyways, this is getting off topic, my original dispute was that yes an average of 5 more rebounds is very significant and i'll leave it at that
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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He lets his teammates grab all the easy ones and only goes for the ones that he needs to get.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:43 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Well of course they're is still a lot of room for improvement, but I wouldn't say that he isn't trying. He made it clear last summer that he was going to focus on improving his rebounding. He put the time in, now its time to show what he learned.
Actually time is up! His time would have been the first 60 games of the season.instead he's played more minutes per game and his rebounds have gone down. A 7' 250lbs Center with 2 double doubles in 65 games is a travesty, and speaks to how important he thinks rebounding is.

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Old 03-28-2011, 02:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Get a coach who doesn't breastfeed him because of BC. Andreas may have low defensive awareness but rebounding is pure effort. I've said it before you need a coach that will stay on his ass 24/7 or he'll just keep eating primo pasta thinking it'll fuel his performance.

Or threaten to trade him. I bet that will wake his lazy ass up.
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Actually time is up! His time would have been the first 60 games of the season.instead he's played more minutes per game and his rebounds have gone down. A 7' 250lbs Center with 2 double doubles in 65 games is a travesty, and speaks to how important he thinks rebounding is.
He isn't a rebounder, he is a scorer. Simple as that. Just like how Reggie is a rebounder, not a scorer.

Some players are one dimensional. Andrea is one hell of a one dimensional player though.

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He isn't a rebounder, he is a scorer. Simple as that. Just like how Reggie is a rebounder, not a scorer.

Some players are one dimensional. Andrea is one hell of a one dimensional player though.
How many players at the 4 or 5 spots have had any success being one-dimensional scorers? We might as well have a pg that can only play defense.
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How many players at the 4 or 5 spots have had any success being one-dimensional scorers? We might as well have a pg that can only play defense.

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If you trade Bargnani, and with the right coach, he will do great things.
Triano needs to grow some balls.
Look at some fo the best coaches around. They dont take it easy on the guys.
The current Raptors roster under Van Gundy would be playign a hell of a lot better
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Andrea is one hell of a one dimensional player though.
No he's not. He's an inefficient one to say the least. When he's on he's very good, and he has offensive skill no doubt, but even at that end he's inconsistent and often time inefficient.
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He isn't a rebounder, he is a scorer. Simple as that. Just like how Reggie is a rebounder, not a scorer.

Some players are one dimensional. Andrea is one hell of a one dimensional player though.
no hes not. melo is one hell of a one dimensional player. durant is one hell of a one dimensional player. even tho those two are one dimensional, because there one dimension is so good that he hasn't hindered them from being considered superstars. not all stars, but superstars.
bargnani isn't even a borderline allstar
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Are you some kind of blood-related family member or something? Have you had a conversation with Andrea regarding his passion for the game? Please, do tell.

And Bargs does box out. Like 90% of the time. Granted, he could be more aggressive, but rebounding sometimes comes down to lucky bounces.
Bargnani only gets rebounds because of lucky bounces. Anyone can rebound if it comes to "lucky bounces". But guess what, you make your luck like Evans does. He busts his ass to get those rebounds, Bargnani just stands around with that 7 foot body of his.

I don't know how passionate Bargnani may be but he certainly doesn't show it on the court. Kobe Bryant shows passion on the court, KG shows passion... you look at Bargnani and all you get is work. If Bargnani had any sort of drive or work ethic, he could easily be a good rebounder and it's not like Bargnani is undersized or anything to think he shouldn't be getting many rebounds... he just doesn't want to get it.

Rebounding comes from work ethic and a player's drive. Evans is undersized but he outworks others to get those rebounds. Kevin Love isn't exactly the biggest or the most athletic guy but he works his ass off to get rebounds. If Bargnani worked anything like those guys, he would be better.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:58 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Why are you guys always trying to motivate him in a negative way? Give him a cookie everytime he grabs a rebound, if that doesn't motivate him idk what will.
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Trade him and let someone else worry about it.
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Trade him and let someone else worry about it.
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Why are you guys always trying to motivate him in a negative way? Give him a cookie everytime he grabs a rebound, if that doesn't motivate him idk what will.
but then heel get fat and he wont be able to jump for any rebounds either
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Old 03-29-2011, 12:02 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I seriously think he has a concentration issue as many times he's blamed his lack of motivation on the defensive end on being 'lazy', which for an NBA player with the responsibilities he has is a crock of shit. I think like many people who have ADD or something similar, he's masking the real issue by passing it off as some innate quality of his that he tries to change but fails; fact is, it's quite possible certain medications or perhaps even just the help of a sports psychologist could really aid him in getting over this hump and get him playing like the superstar he has the God-given talent to be.
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