Could Jose be gone?
Old 06-24-2009, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is just a scenario, but I'm reading on ESPN that
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I'm told that Toronto really likes Jonny Flynn and that the Raptors will strongly consider taking him if he's there at No. 9. According to sources, there is some sentiment within the Raptors organization that they need more of a risk-taker than Jose Calderon at PG, especially if they re-sign Shawn Marion. Flynn, projected to go anywhere from No. 4 to No. 11, would love to go there
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If that's the case, could the next move be to send Jose to the blazers for outlaw + bayless/rodriguez/etc?
Because what's the point in taking a "risk-taker" in Flynn if Jose will play the heavy minutes???
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i think jose is going to be one of many players to be traded on the Raptors roster this summer.
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i think jose is going to be one of many players to be traded on the Raptors roster this summer.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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oh God no.

I don't want to see a year of a rookie who takes risks, tries to run at a high pace and commits 50 turnovers a game. Only to see Bosh bolt next year, and marion retire soon after. Leaving us with a 6'0 PG and a 7'0 SG.

I hope this isn't true.
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This is just a scenario, but I'm reading on ESPN that.

If that's the case, could the next move be to send Jose to the blazers for outlaw + bayless/rodriguez/etc?
Because what's the point in taking a "risk-taker" in Flynn if Jose will play the heavy minutes???
Jose is one of the premier pure PGs in the league. They're rare. They better get a damn good wing for him.

Fernandez would be a player I would be interested in on the Blazers roster.
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oh God no.

I don't want to see a year of a rookie who takes risks, tries to run at a high pace and commits 50 turnovers a game. Only to see Bosh bolt next year, and marion retire soon after. Leaving us with a 6'0 PG and a 7'0 SG.

I hope this isn't true.
Don't forget about Roko and Banks...

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If they trade Flynn, they definitely won't be starting him.

If Portland is an option, it would have to include Outlaw and Blake. BC would be smart in trying to acquire Batum as well if they can...
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I would trade Calderon for Nash or Conley plus pick, but other then that no.
He's just one of those rare PGs and I don't want to give up on him yet.
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If the Raptors were to draft a pg (Flynn) trading Calderon would be a terrible thing IMO.

Like Apollo said, Calderon IS one of the premier point guards in the NBA. I wish people would stop judging him on his playing with an injury. He clearly wasn't 100% for a lot of last year, but when he was healthy, Jose was exactly what any team needs to succeed. His outside scoring is very reliable, and his playmaking and sense of the team is also very good.

You need a guy like that ESPECIALLY if you want to bring in a rookie PG and not rush him into his role. Don't you think a kid like FLynn would benefit from playing with Jose? I do.
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BC has said he wants to address the backup point guard spot, but if we traded Jose and drafted Flynn, our point guard situation would be more dire than it is now. No logic in trading Jose.
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BC has said he wants to address the backup point guard spot, but if we traded Jose and drafted Flynn, our point guard situation would be more dire than it is now. No logic in trading Jose.
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i think jose is going to be one of many players to be traded on the Raptors roster this summer.
No way. Not gonna happen. The last thing they want to do is make a major change at PG that could disrupt the team which would result in Bosh not returning for sure.

Even if it was in a trade to get a proven PG BC won't risk it. Like last year when he tried upgrading at center, it caused major issues and he won't do it again.

It's a high risk move with little to gain.
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The Raptors got to find a someone who can takeover as starting pg. A guard who can rebound with the bigs, and score 30-35 when the defense dictates it, if they can do that while keeping Jose around as a backup, that's awesome, and ideal.
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The Raptors got to find a someone who can takeover as starting pg. A guard who can rebound with the bigs, and score 30-35 when the defense dictates it, if they can do that while keeping Jose around as a backup, that's awesome, and ideal.
Sounds like an easy enough guy to find. Strong rebounding pg's who can score 30-35 when needed are a dime a dozen these days. Also, should be easy enough to find this guy while still holding onto Jose. Maybe package roko, banks, and douby?

Sorry for the sarcasm...because although I agree that this would be IDEAL...it's pretty far fetched.
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Sounds like an easy enough guy to find. Strong rebounding pg's who can score 30-35 when needed are a dime a dozen these days. Also, should be easy enough to find this guy while still holding onto Jose. Maybe package roko, banks, and douby?

Sorry for the sarcasm...because although I agree that this would be IDEAL...it's pretty far fetched.
It's definitely far fetched if bc and Triano are locked in with the idea that Jose is irreplaceable as a starting pg.

I'm just saying that's what they got to look for. They can't be looking for a solid vet who is going to sit behind Jose in the pecking order. Looking in the draft or by trade for somebody who 25-younger, with more upside and can challenge Jose for the starting spot right now, is what they have to do.

And a lot of guys can score 30-35 every now and then, and battle for rebounds. I'm not saying every night, I'm just saying 5-6 times a year.
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If the Raptors were to draft a pg (Flynn) trading Calderon would be a terrible thing IMO.

Like Apollo said, Calderon IS one of the premier point guards in the NBA. I wish people would stop judging him on his playing with an injury. He clearly wasn't 100% for a lot of last year, but when he was healthy, Jose was exactly what any team needs to succeed. His outside scoring is very reliable, and his playmaking and sense of the team is also very good.

You need a guy like that ESPECIALLY if you want to bring in a rookie PG and not rush him into his role. Don't you think a kid like FLynn would benefit from playing with Jose? I do.
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I hated how so many people critisized his play last year and how we shoulda retained Ford. Look at Ford now he is on the brink of getting traded again. As for Jose he was dealing with an injury no harm there.. I know he will bounce back and play like he did in the season prior to last year. Especially if he doesn't play for Spain
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I hated how so many people critisized his play last year and how we shoulda retained Ford.
That was rediculous!
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This is what I thought should have happened when Jose's stock was at it's highest. Both Jose and TJ should have been moved and the backcourt solidified, especially defensively.

But it didn't happen, and now I kinda want to see Jose stick and show something.
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