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jeffb 02-14-2011 08:00 PM

Colangelo: We are clearly rebuilding, Jay doing a solid job
 
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Q: This is Year 16 for the Raptors and Toronto and while the team has had some promising seasons, it has never been an NBA contender. Do you foresee the day Toronto contends for a championship or are the Raptors doomed to being a franchise on the fringe?

A: Absolutely not doomed. This franchise will be fine because it has an ownership committed to winning, a dedicated and passionate fan base and Toronto ranks as one of the elite cities in North America. Couple all of that with a shifting landscape where competitive parity remains a key objective and I think this franchise is poised, not poisoned.

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Q: This will be your third straight year out of the playoffs. I realize you didnít envision anything like that happening on your watch, but as Bill Parcells says, you are what your record says you are. With your contract expiring, make a case to the fans why Bryan Colangelo should be brought back next season - and in the future - as president and general manager of the Raptors.

A: I certainly donít want to be accused of negotiating through the media, so I wonít. I just hope people realize how much I care for the organization Iím working for and the city I have chosen to live in. I will also add that despite our current record, the franchise is in a pretty favourable position. I do hope Iím here to complete the task.

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Q: This is not just the end of your contract. This is the final year on coach Jay Trianoís contract. If you are back as general manager next season, will Triano be back as coach?

A: Jay has done a really solid job here given the difficult circumstances. We are clearly rebuilding and we have been decimated by injury, yet the young guys are clearly developing nicely and the atmosphere around the team has remained positive. The organization will likely address his contract status and whether to pick up his option year sometime after the season.
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Q: Your fan base has been considerably loyal over the years but Iíve seen more empty seats at the Air Canada Centre this season (attendance figures aside) than ever before at Raptors games. How worried are you that your non-contender status has rendered this team to an afterthought in this difficult sporting market where only the Maple Leafs seem assured of sellouts? And what do you say to the fans who are losing patience with your team?

A: Let me correct you to say that this is a great sports market with great fans that just want to see their teams win. Our fan base is our livelihood and yes they mean everything to us so we care very much about dwindling crowds. They deserve more and we intend to deliver more. Based on my interactions, I see and hear the frustration but I also think that people realize what is taking place here and that patience has to be part of the process. I also hear many of them say how much fun this team is to watch We have a plan that has been very clearly laid out ... develop our ďcoreĒ talent, add a solid draft pick or two to the mix and utilize our financial flexibility to add an additional impact player where possible. The sooner we get back to winning games the sooner the stands will fill back up.

Also just for clarification, announced attendance is based on tickets sold. No-shows are different than un-sold inventory.



Colangelo: 'Raptors poised, not poisoned ' | Steve Simmons | Columnists | Sports | Toronto Sun

bjjs 02-14-2011 08:17 PM

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competitive parity remains a key objective
Thank you Tim Donaghy.

LX 02-14-2011 08:19 PM

poised - not poisoned.

Ka-ching. Give that man a raise!

pzabby 02-14-2011 08:49 PM

i love how he talks about triano and praises him while at the same time not giving an answer whether as to heel be here or not next year, mans great in leaving u with an answer that isn't really an answer :police:

jeffb 02-14-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 508345)
i love how he talks about triano and praises him while at the same time not giving an answer whether as to heel be here or not next year, mans great in leaving u with an answer that isn't really an answer :police:

I love it.....there is still hope he cans his ass this summer. lol

pzabby 02-14-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 508350)
I love it.....there is still hope he cans his ass this summer. lol

lol exactly what i was thinking

Acie 02-14-2011 09:24 PM

It's not even offical that he'll be here next year, so why would he comment if Triano will be here?

'trane 02-14-2011 09:31 PM

im surprised how candid he is with this:

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Q: Have you ever seen a season like this one, with so much roster instability, so many injuries, and a piecemeal team on the floor so many NBA nights?

A: Hard to say, but I can certainly agree that we have seen it all this year. For me it seems to have all started with a great trade that was reneged on and now has us searching for 10-day contracts based on whoís available to practice, much less play. ItĎs been wild and painful for sure, but I maintain that positive steps are being taken and we will come out better for it.
and this:

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A: I canít speak for Cleveland, but I did surmise that losing LBJ would hurt a lot more than losing CB4. Iím also not trying to paint a rosy picture, but a few less injuries and we are not as bad as our record currently shows or the prognosticators predicted. I canít say whether itís good for the league or not, but they have always marketed the teams with stars so they have plenty to work with in Miami.

LightsOut 02-14-2011 09:45 PM

^ ye I love his honesty

box92 02-14-2011 10:11 PM

No mention of a trade before the deadline, anyone think there will be one???

LX 02-14-2011 10:16 PM

a few less injuries and what? that's not candid, that's just more escaping accountability. And is he rebuilding or what? It seems maybe not so much if things went just so.

jeffb 02-14-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 508387)
a few less injuries and what? that's not candid, that's just more escaping accountability. And is he rebuilding or what? It seems maybe not so much if things went just so.

Are you fuckin' kidding?

'trane 02-14-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 508387)
a few less injuries and what? that's not candid, that's just more escaping accountability. And is he rebuilding or what? It seems maybe not so much if things went just so.

that's not the candid bit. saying that losing lbj would hurt 'a lot more' than losing bosh is, although obvious, still a bit of a diss that owners usually shy away from. and he then takes a bit of a poke at miami having plenty of stars to market. i don't think i'm reading too much into those lines to not see a bit of a diss.

bjjs 02-14-2011 10:58 PM

Their definitely seems to be some bitterness from Collangelo, which I suppose is expected. But Bosh and Bargnani weren't meshing and BC was forcing that combination no matter what. Bosh came into each season talking positive and I believe genuinely trying to get stoked for each season but it is Collangelo's job to evaluate that relationship and I think it was clear they had absolutely no chemistry.

He fucked up, he should take responsibility, move on, forget about Bosh and stop hating.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 02-14-2011 11:08 PM

Jay has done a "solid" job? Solid is not a good adjective in this context? Reading between the lines says the guy is toast.

Aamir 02-14-2011 11:32 PM

We are just trying to Evolve.

MISAM38 02-15-2011 12:05 AM

I laugh when they say that Toronto is a "rebuilding" team, yet the raps have nothing to "build" around. Do u really think Bargnani is gnna help the raptors make the playoffs in the future. Bargnani is a good player, and probably would be a keeper if he was on a team that made him come off the bench, but the fact that hes our best player doest help us in the future. The only players i would keep on this roster, is Derozan,Ed Davis, and maybe Barbosa(plays very well when healthy) Get a new cast of players and new coach , get a " promising franchise player" someone who is young could improve in the future greatly kinda like a westbrook or an eric gordon, get a couple of draft picks-on good players, and then can they start rebuilding. BC is gonna claim that this team is rebuilding for maybe a couple of years,and theres not gonna be much improvement. then perhaps we do get a bit better, a conflict will arise, which will just send us back to this "rebuilding" stage ppl are claiming we are currently in. this team was built around bosh. Without him, it doesnt fit together nicely , as our pretty record can tell.

LX 02-15-2011 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 508391)
that's not the candid bit. saying that losing lbj would hurt 'a lot more' than losing bosh is, although obvious, still a bit of a diss that owners usually shy away from. and he then takes a bit of a poke at miami having plenty of stars to market. i don't think i'm reading too much into those lines to not see a bit of a diss.

oh yeah - if we're talking disses then there's certainly that. I still would think that a portion of that is about escaping accountability. If he wants to express his dislike for this or that, and still take a man's helping of the blame, then it wouldn't bother me. But it seems that every little mention of his failings gets avalanched by an acknowledgement of circumstances and other people's actions which he finds "disappointing".

On another note - this praising of character is a little ridiculous. Is that another diss at Bosh? If so what of all the times he praised Bosh's character? Does this element of character really mean fuck all? If he truly thinks so then that is a little worrisome, and if he is just promoting an idea that he hopes we will attach ourselves to, then he's a fucking cynical little bastard.

Here's an idea - tell us you need to see results and give us an indication of how you hope to achieve them and measure them.

LX 02-15-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 508388)
Are you fuckin' kidding?

about what? Complete sentences are helpful.

gdaytday 02-15-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MISAM38 (Post 508417)
I laugh when they say that Toronto is a "rebuilding" team, yet the raps have nothing to "build" around. Do u really think Bargnani is gnna help the raptors make the playoffs in the future. Bargnani is a good player, and probably would be a keeper if he was on a team that made him come off the bench, but the fact that hes our best player doest help us in the future. The only players i would keep on this roster, is Derozan,Ed Davis, and maybe Barbosa(plays very well when healthy) Get a new cast of players and new coach , get a " promising franchise player" someone who is young could improve in the future greatly kinda like a westbrook or an eric gordon, get a couple of draft picks-on good players, and then can they start rebuilding. BC is gonna claim that this team is rebuilding for maybe a couple of years,and theres not gonna be much improvement. then perhaps we do get a bit better, a conflict will arise, which will just send us back to this "rebuilding" stage ppl are claiming we are currently in. this team was built around bosh. Without him, it doesnt fit together nicely , as our pretty record can tell.

This isn't a video game. You don't walk down to sportchek and pick up a "promising franchise player".


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