Colangelo trying to land Kevin Martin
Old 02-16-2010, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As the trade deadline begins to barrel down on us some things become more clear.

The Toronto Raptors for one, believed to be positioning themselves to be deadline sellers, have righted the ship and have become deadline buyers.

We have learned that Bryan Colangelo is, and will be active up to the deadline trying to improve our Raptors squad.

Other deadline rumblings we have heard from other NBA teams include Amare to be trade from the Suns, Tyrus Thomas to be traded from the Bulls, Marcus Camby on the market with Portland aggressively pursuing, T-Mac to the Knicks for Hill, Jeffries and Harrington or Hughes. Roger Mason on the market and more.

Where there is smoke there is usually fire and there is reason to believe that Bryan Colangelo is holding out for the Sacramento Kings Kevin Martin.

However, the Boston Celtics have surfaced as a more likely trading partner, especially if the Maloof brothers are looking for salary cap relief. If they are looking for talent and fit, one has to believe the Raptors potential offer trumps the Celtics offer.

Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated tweets in response to Raptors Digest question: Boston. But how good would K-Mart look as a Rap. RT @raptorcity Is Toronto or Boston more likely for K-Martin if he is traded?

However Raptors nation doesn’t completely agree, in a recent poll run by Raptors Digest, while roughly half of Raptor fans do favour a Calderon for Martin swap, the other half would rather keep Calderon or find someone better to trade for.

Whether or not BC should pull the trigger on such a deal remains a hot topic, but the general consensus still remains that the Raptors, should and will likely make a move before Thursday’s trade deadline.
Raptors Digest Blog Archive Colangelo waiting for Jose-Martin swap?? Boston more likely landing spot for Martin??
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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exactly what the Raptors need...another wing player

I wouldn't want to mess up the chemistry of the team and I don't see Martin being a big impact guy on a team like the Raps. He needs the ball in his hands, but the ball is already in Turk/Jack's hands...if he becomes a raptor, he'll be a spot up shooter.
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I will take Colangelo's pick over anybody from Raptor's Digest or Raptor's Forum.... The guy knows what he is doing... and nobody can argue Martin doesn't upgrade our team over Calderon.... Maybe there is a better fit, but it's not like you can always get the perfect player you need.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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WTF, I really don't understand how another jump shooter, who needs to get his touches to be effective is gonna work out on our roster!!! we need an athletic defensive minded player or nothing at all. I rather keep Calderon than do this trade. putting another scorer on our team is gonna throw the chemistry way off unless we ship out Hedo....I really hope this doesn't happen, but i trust BC, w/e he does will be good for the team so we'll wait and see.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Kevin Martin won't be a big impact, i think it'll just help offense...but then agai look at turko, he was expected to be a big impact and produce good numbers. But except for as of late, he hasn't been producing that great numbers. So who knows how Kevin martin will fit... I'm kinda skeptical just with the chemistry..
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WTF, I really don't understand how another jump shooter, who needs to get his touches to be effective is gonna work out on our roster!!! we need an athletic defensive minded player or nothing at all. I rather keep Calderon than do this trade. putting another scorer on our team is gonna throw the chemistry way off unless we ship out Hedo....I really hope this doesn't happen, but i trust BC, w/e he does will be good for the team so we'll wait and see.
I understand there could be a better defensive fit, but if you can add a consistent scorer, lets say 16ppg, to our SG spot, how does it not make us better? It's not like Jose always comes in and tears it up.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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A deal i could MAYBE live with:

Jose
Rasho
Cash

for

Martin
Rodriguez


Jack/Rodriguez/Banks
Martin/DD/Beli
Turk/Wright/Weems
Bosh/Amir/Evans
Bargs/Amir/POB

I just don't know if i want Martin on this team. His contract ends in 2013 @ 13Mil
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not liking this, but if we needed another wing player we should have taken fernandez! damn
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Not liking this, but if we needed another wing player we should have taken fernandez! damn
how would we have taken fernandez? (only asking, I'm unsure)
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I understand there could be a better defensive fit, but if you can add a consistent scorer, lets say 16ppg, to our SG spot, how does it not make us better? It's not like Jose always comes in and tears it up.
true, if you can add a solid scorer to any team its a PLUS, but i don't see where Martin will get his 16 ppg from. CB4, Bargs, Hedo got us covered on offense, so adding Martins scoring is redundant and it will take away touches from the guys mentioned above, and i don't think he brings enough to the team that outweighs what Calderon does for the 2nd unit and the overall team chemistry and energy he brings.

I would rather prefer a guy like Battier who doesn't really need touches and who can get you 8-10 ppg a couple of RBS, ASST, STLS and veteran leadership heading into the playoffs.
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true, if you can add a solid scorer to any team its a PLUS, but i don't see where Martin will get his 16 ppg from. CB4, Bargs, Hedo got us covered on offense, so adding Martins scoring is redundant and it will take away touches from the guys mentioned above, and i don't think he brings enough to the team that outweighs what Calderon does for the 2nd unit and the overall team chemistry and energy he brings.

I would rather prefer a guy like Battier who doesn't really need touches and who can get you 8-10 ppg a couple of RBS, ASST, STLS and veteran leadership heading into the playoffs.
I would prefer Battier, Hinrich, Hamilton but none of those teams are likely interested in Jose.
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true, if you can add a solid scorer to any team its a PLUS, but i don't see where Martin will get his 16 ppg from. CB4, Bargs, Hedo got us covered on offense, so adding Martins scoring is redundant and it will take away touches from the guys mentioned above, and i don't think he brings enough to the team that outweighs what Calderon does for the 2nd unit and the overall team chemistry and energy he brings.

I would rather prefer a guy like Battier who doesn't really need touches and who can get you 8-10 ppg a couple of RBS, ASST, STLS and veteran leadership heading into the playoffs.
I would also prefer a guy solid on both ends, but is Battier available? Doubt it. Corey Brewer? doubt it. just cause you want it, does not make it so. I trust BC has looked into such players considering all of the bad press the Raps get about their defence.
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yeah, i trust BC. I hope he will pull off another genius trade to benefit us...but there's been ALOT of talk with this K-Martin trade...I have a feeling it will happen...
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I would prefer Battier, Hinrich, Hamilton but none of those teams are likely interested in Jose.
of those three, I would only prefer Battier, though he would be a bench guy then because Hedo is not moving to the bench....

It think Rip of 5 years ago maybe... but he is not the same player anymore. Hinrich can't play the two for this team, in my opinion.
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I would also prefer a guy solid on both ends, but is Battier available? Doubt it. Corey Brewer? doubt it. just cause you want it, does not make it so. I trust BC has looked into such players considering all of the bad press the Raps get about their defence.

Yeah thats one thing im sure of, BC will do the right thing. But i also feel like unless we get something were looking for (etc. battier) , there's no point in trading Calderon just for the sake of trading him.
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I would prefer Battier, Hinrich, Hamilton but none of those teams are likely interested in Jose.
Battier is 31, Hamilton is 32, Hinrich is 29 and overrated and pointless to acquire - he'd play a similar role to Jose or Jack. (more D than Jose but less passing).

Adding a consistent 20-25 point per game guy like Martin is a good thing, it instantly clears up the big question mark we have at SG - who will step up every night. We can take DeRozan off the bench as a 6th man for the next couple of years, and then deal with the DeRozan/Martin dilemma in 2-3 years when DeRozan actually deserves to start.
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Battier is 31, Hamilton is 32, Hinrich is 29 and overrated and pointless to acquire - he'd play a similar role to Jose or Jack. (more D than Jose but less passing).
Exactly what we need. We have too many passers as it is and not enough D.
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Battier is 31, Hamilton is 32, Hinrich is 29 and overrated and pointless to acquire - he'd play a similar role to Jose or Jack. (more D than Jose but less passing).

Adding a consistent 20-25 point per game guy like Martin is a good thing, it instantly clears up the big question mark we have at SG - who will step up every night. We can take DeRozan off the bench as a 6th man for the next couple of years, and then deal with the DeRozan/Martin dilemma in 2-3 years when DeRozan actually deserves to start.
Agree.... though in 2-3 years DeRozan should be the starter as Martin becomes our Jason Terry....
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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you guys want something to happen now right? that's what mr. Colangelo is doing. i personally think we're better off holding interactions in the off-season than now.

i'd really like Shane Battier if that's possible. if not, i know Colangelo did the best he can to negotiate with the Rockets.

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Old 02-16-2010, 09:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
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NOOO D...... It might up the chances of chris Bosh staying but it might also down the chances because if kevin doesn't play well and we suk for the rest of the year, chris will leave for sure. also it messes up our chemistry. Don't take the risk. But if BC makes this move, we will surely know why he did it at the press conference when kevin is introduced.

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