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Acie 05-25-2011 12:00 PM

Colangelo on with Sid & Tim at 4:30pm
 
LISTEN HERE

DDUnreal 05-25-2011 12:14 PM

I wonder if there will be any rebuttle from Andrea's comments on Sky.

jeffb 05-25-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DDUnreal (Post 542549)
I wonder if there will be any rebuttle from Andrea's comments on Sky.

Already did.....


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The way the Italian media portrayed my comments, I think, was completely out of context ... That’s what I call unfortunate,” Colangelo said Tuesday. “I didn’t say anything derogatory. I said in order for Andrea to get to the next level, he needs to focus on certain things and he needs to improve in certain areas.”

DDUnreal 05-25-2011 01:14 PM

I'm sure it will come up anyway, can't wait for the beauty that is his long winded perfectly described answers to every question.

EDIT: to clarify this is not sarcasm.

jeffb 05-25-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DDUnreal (Post 542568)
I'm sure it will come up anyway, can't wait for the beauty that is his long winded perfectly described answers to every question.

:sigh:

Dutches 05-25-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 542571)
:sigh:

even though its not always the best from a bball point of veiw, I like the fact that we have a GM that also doubles as a prosecutor for the crown.

Bill Haverchuck 05-25-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutches (Post 542573)
even though its not always the best from a bball point of veiw, I like the fact that we have a GM that also doubles as a prosecutor for the crown.

Haha

But I think he does more defending than prosecuting.

Bankiz 05-25-2011 03:55 PM

did they have it on podcast somewhere ?

jeffb 05-25-2011 04:31 PM

these guys are torture to listen to.

Snooch 05-25-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 542625)
these guys are torture to listen to.

you think that everyone doing everything is terrible.


I'm guessing no one ever told you if you can;t say anything nice don't say anything, cause you certainly wouldn't have 10,000 posts on here if that was the case. ;)

jeffb 05-25-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snooch (Post 542628)
you think that everyone doing everything is terrible.


I'm guessing no one ever told you if you can;t say anything nice don't say anything, cause you certainly wouldn't have 10,000 posts on here if that was the case. ;)

Coming from you that's rich.

Ligeia 05-25-2011 05:19 PM

Haven't heard the full podcast yet, so I won't comment on the quality. I'm a regular Tim & Sid listener and I often enjoy their back and forth but their analysis and especially their interviewing skills are so-so.

Here's the podcast to listen for yourself:

May 25 - Bryan Colangelo joins the show | Tim and Sid: Uncut | Radio | The Score

rapsmannn 05-25-2011 05:24 PM

scoring, Andrea is one of the best, defensively he is one of the worst,

together that makes a slighty above average player because better offense is always better htan better defense

so for a guy to be a slighty above average player, scoring 20 agame doesn't make sense because usually guys who are 20 ppg scorers are allstars, but for Andrea to become a Allstar type player he has to bring it on the defensive end, whcih we've seen flashes, even a few good months at times but never for a full year

jeffb 05-25-2011 05:28 PM

Boy i really get the impression Jay is on the bubble...

I also get the feeling he wants a PG out of this draft.

BTW, Walker.....a combo guard? :confused2:


Here's a recap courtesy of a poster at realGM:

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Because I'm a damn writer, I wanted to go up against Rhett on transcribing. And got my ass kicked. Here was my take.

how good is italian?
BC not very good. Married to Italian, only gets a word in by speaking English.
Feschuk's take not totally off-base, but a little inaccurate.
Taken out of context. It was an overstatement, let's not sensationalize.
Kid was upset. Did not want to hurt anybody, especially not people/fans of Toronto.

You can understand this blowing up?

Only if there was something real. The kid's statement clarifies it all. Appreciated BC's comments. Not yet an elite player. Needs to work on some things. Italian media portrayed BC as blasting AB, but that's not how it happened.

You put this team into a position of financial flexibility.

Whether we have 7 mill or 17 mill of cap space, we will be well positioned once the new rules come out. Will play out in the ability to sign free agents, or acquire players into cap space. A good position to be in for us.
Can't talk about CBA "transition"

Draft

We like where we are at 5. SOunds funny coming down from 3. Less cap charge, more flexibility, but equal or possibly better talent. One of three PGs will be on board, if that's what we choose to address. Val, Kanter, we're going to interview and work-out on June 5,6. Not a big body of work to work with. High riser BB. Good solid minutes in Spain. 3-4s in Vesely and Williams. Sleeper picks Leonard. Really intense player - Ron Artest-type. Quiet intensity. Rebounds well. Impressed with Tristan Thompson, great interview. Probably a duplication with Ed. Will pick a combination of talent and need.

Knock on Walker is size

Impressed with Walker for a number of reasons. Guard driven league. Not a big strong guard, but can defend with quickness like Aaron Brooks. We have tough time dealing with waterbug guards. Put his team on his back. Difficult to take it to the NBA level, but he has the talent level. Time will tell if he's a starting PG or a combo. But he has the talent to play.

How much stock do you put in body of work?

It's helpful. Guys that we get the best read on we've been following for a while.Watch them in the showcase games but also the practices leading up to the games. Like Amare Stoudamire, didn't watch the HS games. Kemba, we've seen for a while and we know he's gonna be a winner.

Is Jay coach next year.

Haven't had a chance to deal with issue. We've had a chance to share some moments. Jay has done a great job. He's done everything we've asked him to do, developing young players. DD, Ed, Amir putting up career numbers. But need to talk about why are we not defending better, or moving the ball and getting higher percentage shots. We need to have those conversations in earnest. Will know in the next few weeks if that's the direction we're going.

Restlessness on BC's part?

I want to win in the worst way. We took a step back talentwise this year, my responsibility. Could argue that talent was here this year, but didn't have experience. I'm restless when we're not winning. I'm restless when we're winning. Now that my contract is resolved, I can sit down in earnest to determine management structures.

fk24 05-25-2011 07:26 PM

They've done a lot of scouting on Walker so I'd guess they have a good read on him.

LX 05-25-2011 08:17 PM

I found it odd how he did not call Andrea by his name, but instead referred to him as "the kid" about a dozen times.

Ligeia 05-25-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 542698)
I found it odd how he did not call Andrea by his name, but instead referred to him as "the kid" about a dozen times.

I felt like he switched to that in a way that implied that it was just a "kid", the kind of kid that can make a mistake or misspeak. I wasn't very impressed that he was so defensive without finding out first hand what was actually said.

rapsmannn 05-25-2011 08:39 PM

I would love to see Triano go, he is decent at player development but I would prefer to see a coach like Adelman, or even what the lakers did in hiring Brown, a defensive style of a coach, or what the bulls did last year by hiring a defensive genius


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