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Old 03-26-2013, 09:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Did anyone ever get the rights to Diamantidis? From what I remember he was pretty damn good....
I don't think he wants to come. He gets paid more in Europe than he would in the NBA and he'll be a bench player.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If he comes here for really cheap I wouldn't mind. Also, BC has to go and take DC with him.
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A shooter off the bench would help and he'd likely be signed to a pretty cheap contract.
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A shooter off the bench would help and he'd likely be signed to a pretty cheap contract.
To be honest that's the last thing i want in a way. I'm so god damn tired of us getting ONE high priced talent and then cheaping on a bench that are from the D-league, Europe etc....


Can we stop with the AA, Butler, Soloman type players please. Why can't we be one of the teams that get a player like Gay and add to it with another solid player? Why do we get a player like Gay and are essentially caped out while other teams have 2-3 stars and still have solid benches. Our current roster is caped out and we have 11 players making 5mil or less, 6 of which make less than 2mil.


How the fuck is that even possible?
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I don't see anything wrong in scouting euros, especially having in mind that it is 2nd strongest league in the world. it only makes seance imo
it's just bothering me that everyone is automatically clumping any italian with bargnani. if the dude can ball, he can ball.
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NO harm in scouting but if he has intent to sign Datome this doesn't sound like a good idea imo. There's some good players in the NBA(the best league in the world) who may be in the wrong system or haven't got a honest chance,that Colangelo should be trying to pry away. I think about how deep Tobias Harris was pinned on Milwaukee's bench,now playing very well having the opportunity to see minutes and play through mistakes in Orlando. Who knows,I player like Julyan Stone (6'6 PG in Denver) may be a hidden gem but can't see much minutes behind Lawson and Miller.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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This smells of his little italian assistant imo. Why is that fuck still here, likely making millions per season? What to our knowledge has he ever accomplished here?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:44 AM   #28 (permalink)
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To be honest that's the last thing i want in a way. I'm so god damn tired of us getting ONE high priced talent and then cheaping on a bench that are from the D-league, Europe etc....


Can we stop with the AA, Butler, Soloman type players please. Why can't we be one of the teams that get a player like Gay and add to it with another solid player? Why do we get a player like Gay and are essentially caped out while other teams have 2-3 stars and still have solid benches. Our current roster is caped out and we have 11 players making 5mil or less, 6 of which make less than 2mil.


How the fuck is that even possible?
Well first of all, guys like Gary Neal and Novak are valuable pieces on contending team and they were both either playing in Europe or NBA rejects before that. This is prolly cause shooting is a skill that always translates to the NBA and having a defined role allows them to succeed in a system.

We have a lot of guys without yet defined roles on the team. Bargs is an enigma, sometimes JV gets touches while others he doesn't, Gay has been sporadic this season and Demar is a slasher whos trying to open up the floor with the threat of a jumper, but that has been inconsistent. A pure shooter who can hit the 3 reliably would be great.

In terms of the star power, a lot of team go over way over the cap to attain the stars they have and hopefully we put ourselves in the position to do the same later. Rudy makes 19 mil next year, while Demar makes 9.5, maybe a little overpaid, but I still think he can become a star player. Bargs makes 10 mil which is ideally where the Raptors would want their 3rd star to come from, but he's been horrible. Howver, if we had a star player like Milsap with that salary, the team's enitre makeup would just make much more sense. Right now, our cap situation feels like a huge handicap, simply because we are getting zero production from a 10 million contract in Bargs and a 4.6 million contract in Kleiza. That 14 million is a huge difference, not to mention the added cap space from free agents we could let go (Anderson, Pietrus, Lucas, Telfair). We could easily get rid of 3 or 4 of these players with contracts under 2 million. I really think small pickups like signing a guy like Randy Foye would give us a big boost next season, even if we dont end up getting a power forward and Bargs is not part of our plans. I personally hope we can ship Bargs out by shopping him with next year's first.

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bc is all over europe
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Italian who shoots 3s - when did that ended up bad?

I wonder if BC took Bargs to this Eurotrip movie reproduction.
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I didnt hear of this guy until 10 minutes ago, but I want him if we can get rid of alan chuckerson
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Gigi ?
oh man, this is the name of a chinese female escort here in Downtown Toronto.

BC, for God's sake, get the fuck out of Toronto.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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it's just bothering me that everyone is automatically clumping any italian with bargnani. if the dude can ball, he can ball.
This ...but its worse that some people think any european player sucks. Good god what a closed minded approach.
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This ...but its worse that some people think any european player sucks. Good god what a closed minded approach.
No, we do not think like that, we think BC sucks.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:27 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Meh, Virtus sucks, Italian league is not very strong either. He was a bench warmer in a Euroleague team. Im having hard time believing he got much better..
I think he is a better player than Bargnani and Belinelli are. He's one of the top 3 Italian players probably, along with Galinari and Aradori.

And lots and lots of players sucked or were average at best in Euroleague and play in the NBA as rotation players, 6th men, starters, etc. Euroleague is a really serious level.

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What happened to Spanoulis?
He's the best player in Europe, and he's asking for $16 million for 2 years this summer when he comes into free agency.

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he is already 32 and he is not nba good.. Teodosic is who we should be looking at. Jose 2.0 with better defense
Diamantidis is not good enough for NBA? You can't be serious? He's much better than Rubio, Dragic, Calderon, etc.

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To be honest that's the last thing i want in a way. I'm so god damn tired of us getting ONE high priced talent and then cheaping on a bench that are from the D-league, Europe etc....


Can we stop with the AA, Butler, Soloman type players please. Why can't we be one of the teams that get a player like Gay and add to it with another solid player? Why do we get a player like Gay and are essentially caped out while other teams have 2-3 stars and still have solid benches. Our current roster is caped out and we have 11 players making 5mil or less, 6 of which make less than 2mil.


How the fuck is that even possible?
Players like Solomon and Anderson were never among the better players in Europe. Players like them are typical in Euroleague. Datome is a better player.

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I don't think he wants to come. He gets paid more in Europe than he would in the NBA and he'll be a bench player.
He would start in the NBA 100% guaranteed.

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I think he is a better player than Bargnani and Belinelli are. He's one of the top 3 Italian players probably, along with Galinari and Aradori.
You are out of your damn mind..

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And lots and lots of players sucked or were average at best in Euroleague and play in the NBA as rotation players, 6th men, starters, etc. Euroleague is a really serious level.
agree with that, but there is lots of Euroleague superstars, who suck in nba. Doesn't make them bad players, it's just that euroleague and nba are very different in terms of game style.



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Diamantidis is not good enough for NBA? You can't be serious? He's much better than Rubio, Dragic, Calderon, etc.
Again he is too old, and different game style he would not be good in nba. And there's no way he is better than Calderon or Dragic! Rubio maybe for now


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Players like Solomon and Anderson were never among the better players in Europe. Players like them are typical in Euroleague. Datome is a better player.
once again.. difference in game style, player like Teletovic arguably best in Euroleague at one point, is not all that good in nba.

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He would start in the NBA 100% guaranteed.


..we will see

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log I agree with everything you said, except for caldy and dragic being better than rubio........... u fucked bro? :jack:
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log I agree with everything you said, except for caldy and dragic being better than rubio........... u fucked bro? :jack:
Rubio is better nba player, but im talking on the international level. Dragic and Caldy are still more valuable when it comes to nt, for now..
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