Colangelo: Outgoing interview with players had an impact on decision

Go Back   Raptors Forum | Toronto Raptors Forums & Message Boards > NBA Discussion > Toronto Raptors

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-02-2011, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 81,269
Representing:
Raptors Colangelo: Exit interviews with players had an impact on decision

A couple minutes into his interview tonight with Bob McCowan BC states that the input from players after the season had some impact on his decision to Fire Triano. He also states that Jay is a nice guy, is more of a player coach and the team needs more accountability with reguard to the players. Wants someone with more presence and different style.

He also says he's getting a lot of interest in the position.

Bryan Colangelo - Sportsnet Radio - FAN 590 Toronto - Audio on Demand

Last edited by jeffb; 06-02-2011 at 07:18 PM.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 07:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
#NorthernUprising

6 Man Like Lou Will
 
js12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: T.O.
Posts: 5,672
Representing:
Default

I wonder who told Colangelo that Triano is not the candidate to carry the team.

That player must have been a "keeper" since most players on the roster is not part of the future.
js12 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 09:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
Bang Bang Bang, Skeet Skeet Skeet, She do that thing for 3 retweets...

Blunted Member
 
Dutches's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Here
Posts: 1,001
Representing:
Default

His blurb near the end about Jay possibly being an assistant as part of a new coaching staff is really interesting. If the new HC is up for it, it could be good for the team.
Dutches is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 09:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 81,269
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutches View Post
His blurb near the end about Jay possibly being an assistant as part of a new coaching staff is really interesting. If the new HC is up for it, it could be good for the team.

I hope the new HC has more brains then that. We seriously need to move on, like a band-aid.........RIGHT OFF!!
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 09:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
is too lazy to respond, you win

Senior Member
 
GrannyFro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,496
Representing:
Default

i remember reggie in an interveiw not too long ago saying he wanted jay back, but if i remeber correctly he was playing the old card and making jay seem like a soft coach whether intending too or not
GrannyFro is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 09:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
a starter

Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 107
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by js12 View Post
I wonder who told Colangelo that Triano is not the candidate to carry the team.

That player must have been a "keeper" since most players on the roster is not part of the future.
I don't think any player said that Triano wasn't a keeper. I think it was the players exposed his soft side.

ie.
Player X: He's a great coach, instead of screaming at me when I missed my defensive assignment he took me out for ice cream after the game and asked me politely if I can make a better effort.
StartingBench is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 09:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Superjudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,592
Representing:
Default

I think Colangelo is saving face on his own end guys. I know for certain that Triano wasn't a push over, he was a screamer and he was intense. His hands were tied with certain 7 foot and certain pg's that the GM had invested in and he wasn't allowed to just bench them.

BC is covering his missed gambles. It happens, it's how it works. I like him still.
Superjudge is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 09:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 81,269
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superjudge View Post
I think Colangelo is saving face on his own end guys. I know for certain that Triano wasn't a push over, he was a screamer and he was intense. His hands were tied with certain 7 foot and certain pg's that the GM had invested in and he wasn't allowed to just bench them.

BC is covering his missed gambles. It happens, it's how it works. I like him still.
To some degree probably, it's what GM's do. But I have to think it's also pretty true, plus he said he's a players coach but stated he was stern when he had to be. But that he's not a screamer or the type that would want and rave. You somehow find that hard to believe? He said he had trouble holding players accountable, which was easy to see even for the blind.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 10:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
a starter

Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 107
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superjudge View Post
I think Colangelo is saving face on his own end guys. I know for certain that Triano wasn't a push over, he was a screamer and he was intense. His hands were tied with certain 7 foot and certain pg's that the GM had invested in and he wasn't allowed to just bench them.

BC is covering his missed gambles. It happens, it's how it works. I like him still.

Colangelo has his own issues, but Triano was definately one of them. He definately did seem like a push over in all his interviews. You can see it in his interviews that he never felt like he's in control. Even the classic quote "What the fuck you gonna do" screams push over. He's the coach, the leader, figure something out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
.... But that he's not a screamer or the type that would want and rave. ....
I think sometimes coaches need to scream and rave at these kids. You've got a bunch of <25 yr old millionaires in white vegas. How else are you gonna get these kid's attention?

Last edited by StartingBench; 06-03-2011 at 10:11 AM.
StartingBench is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 10:57 AM   #10 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,811
Representing:
Default

From BC answers you know where Triano failed. BC was happy with player development. Know he's looking for a candidate with head coach experience and has had success with implenting a successful defense at the NBA level. All shortcommings with Triano. Again, he brings out the "frustrations of Bargnani" of not playing defense and rebounding. Something Triano was never able to get out of Andrea, and the defensive commitment he never got out of the team.
RAPMAN is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 11:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
adoring his baby girl.

Senior Member
 
Sick, Wicked and Nasty!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada eh?
Posts: 3,288
Representing:
Default

I wonder if the players were complaining that Bargnani got lots of minutes despite not playing defense.
Sick, Wicked and Nasty! is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 11:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
whatever

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: toronto
Posts: 10,396
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty! View Post
I wonder if the players were complaining that Bargnani got lots of minutes despite not playing defense.
Except pretty much all starters were in the same position, except maybe Amir and James ...
moremilk is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 11:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
Mean Muggin with his son

Swollen Member
 
b55bgc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Rock AKA Newfoundland
Posts: 1,400
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
I hope the new HC has more brains then that. We seriously need to move on, like a band-aid.........RIGHT OFF!!
I agree. We all know that Triano is a nice guy, and the players like him. But they aint working hard enough under him. Why keep him on. A new era needs to happen with regards to coaching.
b55bgc is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 11:33 AM   #14 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Superjudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,592
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RAPMAN View Post
From BC answers you know where Triano failed. BC was happy with player development. Know he's looking for a candidate with head coach experience and has had success with implenting a successful defense at the NBA level. All shortcommings with Triano. Again, he brings out the "frustrations of Bargnani" of not playing defense and rebounding. Something Triano was never able to get out of Andrea, and the defensive commitment he never got out of the team.
I don't disagree with you guys, clearly Triano was not perfect, he can be improved upon. I just liked him, he's a guy I feel I would play hard for. In the NBA it's hard, ego's are huge, it literally takes a top 3 coach to even make a dent of difference. Thats where I don't like firing guys like Triano. It serves little purpose but to say "ya, we know we were bad, but look!!!!!! Were doing stuff to be better!!!!!"
Superjudge is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 11:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
BOOBS

never too old.


 
INSIDER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: richmond hill
Posts: 11,716
Representing:
Default

all signs point to Triano being a really nice guy, probably awesome friend, and just all-around awesome dude to hang out with a drink a brew with.
but this is a coaching position... the best coaches arent your friend... they are your coach - someone to fear, someone who teaches, someone who can bring the pain if you mess up.
Triano doesnt look like he has a mean bone in his body... he doesnt seem like he can really and truly get mad at a player and hold his players accountable.
while he'll probably be an amazing head office guy, he isnt NBA coach material. he's too much of a nice guy.
INSIDER is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 01:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 565
Representing:
Default

if this is the case, then its very ironic. i mean jay let a lot of these guys play through mistakes (bargnani) and get more playing time then they essentially would on any other team in the league imo. guys like james johnson, sonny weems, julian wright would have been lucky to play 1/8 of the games this season on a team with even a grain of talent (overexaggeration i know)...if anything i thought the players response to him was going to be the one thing that kept him as hc of this team..

goes to show how unpredictable the nba can be
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 02:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 81,269
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
if this is the case, then its very ironic. i mean jay let a lot of these guys play through mistakes (bargnani) and get more playing time then they essentially would on any other team in the league imo. guys like james johnson, sonny weems, julian wright would have been lucky to play 1/8 of the games this season on a team with even a grain of talent (overexaggeration i know)...if anything i thought the players response to him was going to be the one thing that kept him as hc of this team..

goes to show how unpredictable the nba can be
Wright played? If anything he'd be one of the players throwing him under the bus, same with Weems. The 09-10 season had players questioning the HC and maybe last season it was just kept behind closed doors.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 03:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 565
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
Wright played? If anything he'd be one of the players throwing him under the bus, same with Weems. The 09-10 season had players questioning the HC and maybe last season it was just kept behind closed doors.
he played a bit yes. funny thing is even tho he played extremely little, would he have gotten more playing time on any other team? not to mention he started a couple games i believe
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
ibra the great

Member
 
arsonal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Brampton
Posts: 478
Representing:
Default

Raptors to interview mavs Dwane Casey!?!?!?
arsonal is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2011, 04:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
a Piston Fan !

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,258
Representing:
Default

Well I heard that it was Caldy that did Triano in. Caldy has all the respect for Jay as a person however he did not totally buy in on how he managed the game. Caldy was for all about the team. He will be back as our starter look for the team be tougher on d. Caldy is the Captain of our team. His experience being on a winner playing for Spain and now going through all this with the Raptors just puts a sour taste in his mouth. I would like to see Caldy coach in the NBA some day. He is by far our most intelligent baskball player.
raptor123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24