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Acie 05-17-2011 08:25 AM

Colangelo: After the top two, the draft holds a lot of murkiness
 
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Colangelo considers Duke freshman point guard Kyrie Irving and Arizona sophomore forward Derrick Williams the top prospects available, but said the rest of the draft holds a lot of “murkiness.” Another NBA GM thinks Turkish center Enes Kanter and Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas could also merit consideration with the No. 1 pick.

Each of the four players, however, has blemishes. Irving missed most of his only college season with a right toe injury, and several teams in the lottery already have the point guard position filled. Some scouts consider Williams undersized and don’t know whether he’s more suited to play small or power forward. Kanter hasn’t played in an organized game in more than a year after being ruled ineligible to play at Kentucky last season. Valanciunas would be a hard sell to North American fans, who know little about him.


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“Every team will probably look at it a little bit differently,” Colangelo said. “Once the results of the lottery are known we will have a more clearer idea of what’s going on up there. If Washington wins the lottery, it’s pretty clear that they probably don’t require a point guard – and if someone really wants a point guard they will probably make an attempt to make some type of a deal with Washington. That might go for a couple of teams as well.”

LINK - Yahoo! Sports

jeffb 05-17-2011 08:33 AM

I pray that us or Washington gets #1 then. If Washington gets #1 we'll do everything possible to get it from them.

jeffb 05-17-2011 09:16 AM

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"Our plan is to continue to develop these guys, have the flexibility to add some pieces when those pieces are available in free agency, and keep growing organically as much as possible without the outside pieces that are required," said Colangelo.* "We are going to have a high draft pick, that's another piece that comes into the fold.* It is very, very unlikely that we do anything with that pick between now and draft time.* That pick does have a lot of value, there have been a lot of people that have inquired if we would move that pick and offered players in lieu of that but we decided no, we are going to stick with it for now, stick with the plan of bringing in a good young piece."


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19813

Claudius 05-17-2011 10:34 AM

I could see some teams wanting a high pick this year simply because of what may happen in the off-season with the CBA. A young player, on a rookie scale contract (that could be valued even lower than it currently is) is a very nice asset to have.

Leafhater 05-17-2011 11:16 AM

Sounds like a carbon copy of the last time the Raps had a draft pick this high. Hopefully this time, we don't mess it up if we move up.

DDUnreal 05-17-2011 11:46 AM

Its time to see our good old turk friends around the forums again! :dancing:

jeffb 05-17-2011 11:46 AM

D. Smith is reporting that Colangelo has been signed to an extension. TSN. Radio reporting it's a 5yr extension.

Northern Neighbour 05-17-2011 11:48 AM

I think five years is too long for BC. I think three years would have been ideal. At least, the team's President and GM situation is settled.

archie63 05-17-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Neighbour (Post 539652)
I think five years is too long for BC. I think three years would have been ideal. At least, the team's President and GM situation is settled.

Hope is not the coach situation...just saying

LX 05-17-2011 02:14 PM

ESPN's lotto machine has us taking Williams if we get the #1.

Blaze 05-17-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 539698)
ESPN's lotto machine has us taking Williams if we get the #1.

I hope that thing is wrong, why-it took me 7 tries to get a pick higher than 5th. loll

Don Vito 05-17-2011 04:26 PM

This is what must happen... I got this on my fourth try.

http://i.imgur.com/6PMvN.jpg

MikeToronto 05-17-2011 04:30 PM

Why Williams, though? Haven't we learned yet the importance of having a world-class PG? Or do you guys think Irving won't be all that? :confused:

jeffb 05-17-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 539730)
Why Williams, though? Haven't we learned yet the importance of having a world-class PG? Or do you guys think Irving won't be all that? :confused:

You consider Irving world class? I would draft either at the number one, but i agree, i'd probably go with Irving.

pzabby 05-17-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 539648)
D. Smith is reporting that Colangelo has been signed to an extension. TSN. Radio reporting it's a 5yr extension.

really?? any links, anything? i cant believe it was so sudden.. im ecstatic :police::yeah:

Thug 05-17-2011 04:57 PM

Fuck Kanter.

Irving, Williams, or Kemba Walker.

EggsToTheBBQ 05-17-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 539730)
Why Williams, though? Haven't we learned yet the importance of having a world-class PG? Or do you guys think Irving won't be all that? :confused:

The PG position isn't that important. Most teams will still draft a dominant forward over a PG, and for good reason.

The PG mostly just initiates the offense and brings the ball up the court. I'm not saying it doesn't take skill, but it has much more to do with intangibles - the willingness to defer to teammates, patience, maturity...

Some outstanding PGs have come from much later in the draft than the lottery, because a lot of them really aren't that physically talented, they just have "high basketball IQ" (they just know how to play the position properly).

For me, I hope we don't draft Irving simply because he experienced an injury that has a high probability of recurring. Obviously, neither him nor his agent, nor his doctors have any incentive to disclose how it could impact his career.

That injury question mark hangs over Irving's head, and I'd rather draft D Will II or Valanciunas. Also, I'd rather not draft a guard with a top pick.

rapsmannn 05-17-2011 05:00 PM

brandon knight is going to be better than Kemba Walker, he pretty much did what Kemba did this year but win the national championship, the difference is Brandon Knight is two years younger

jeffb 05-17-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thug (Post 539738)
Fuck Kanter.

Irving, Williams, or Kemba Walker.

Pretty much

box92 05-17-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 539729)
This is what must happen... I got this on my fourth try.

http://i.imgur.com/6PMvN.jpg

I shit you not, I got this soon as i tried the first time


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