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Dr. J. Naismith 02-23-2009 07:00 PM

CNNSI.com: Colangelo On The NBA Hot Seat
 
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Originally Posted by CNNSI.com
Bryan Colangelo, Raptors: While Jermaine O'Neal has joined former coach Sam Mitchell in the discard pile in Toronto's Keep Chris Bosh Happy game, GM Colangelo will need to do much more to persuade his franchise player to stay. Shawn Marion might be a good start, given his desire to play the up-tempo game Colangelo wants, but making a run at the East's eight seed isn't much of a selling point. On the bright side, there are 12 months until next season's trade deadline, at which point Colangelo and the Raptors will have to decide Bosh's fate if they hope to remain a competitive entity in the years to come.

Source - Aaron Brooks, Jermaine O'Neal among those on NBA hot seat - Paul Forrester - SI.com

'trane 02-23-2009 07:05 PM

no doubt. he put plans in place and now we're into the backup to those plans. he's got time to prove himself yet, but he'd better do something in the next 6-12 months or he's up shit's creek.

kg1585 02-23-2009 07:23 PM

Even with this horrible record, I doubt BC is on the hot seat. MLSE cares about money, and that is what BC has brought them.

Gurk 02-23-2009 07:30 PM

I highly doubt BC will go, but that's because of MLSE. He is on the fans hot seat riht now

moremilk 02-23-2009 07:57 PM

probably nobody knows if he's on a hot seat or not ...

If I was his boss, I would definitely not considering firing him. My opinion of Colangelo is that he's a very qualified general manager. As long as I believe that, whether he did a good or not so good job is less relevant, since it would be very stupid to fire somebody just because they had a bad year. It's like having a sales guy who for the past 10 years did a great job, but now that he has a bad year you fire him ... not a smart decision.

Retro 02-23-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 148696)
probably nobody knows if he's on a hot seat or not ...

If I was his boss, I would definitely not considering firing him. My opinion of Colangelo is that he's a very qualified general manager. As long as I believe that, whether he did a good or not so good job is less relevant, since it would be very stupid to fire somebody just because they had a bad year. It's like having a sales guy who for the past 10 years did a great job, but now that he has a bad year you fire him ... not a smart decision.

THANK YOU, I DONT GET WHY EVERYONE ELSE IS LOSING THEIR SACK OVER A BAD SEASON.

The only bad decision BC has made in my books was firing Sam Mitchell, which most of you guys will disagree with, for god only knows what reason.

jeffb 02-23-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurk (Post 148678)
I highly doubt BC will go, but that's because of MLSE. He is on the fans hot seat riht now

This article says nothing about Colangelo and his job being in jeoperdy in Toronto. It's more about the Bosh situation.And BC being able to surround him with the right players to try and keep him here.Not once did that article mention him leaving or possibly being let go.He isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years which is when his contract expires.

jeffb 02-23-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro (Post 148701)
THANK YOU, I DONT GET WHY EVERYONE ELSE IS LOSING THEIR SACK OVER A BAD SEASON.

The only bad decision BC has made in my books was firing Sam Mitchell, which most of you guys will disagree with, for god only knows what reason.

I agree for the most part. The only other mistake he's made imo was overpaying for Krapono.Beyond those two decisions (JK/Sam) i've been happy with his decisions overall.

Dark Knight 02-23-2009 10:04 PM

wow, JO's on the hot seat already. Poor son of a gun :mischief:

N64 02-23-2009 10:05 PM

In BC we trust

lonewolfpoet 02-23-2009 10:45 PM

J.O. in the discard pile? Gee, I wonder how the Miami Heat like being called a discard pile? Some journalists need to take vocabulary 101.

DVS 02-24-2009 12:11 AM

Given the fact The Raptors have a history of being unstable. I'd first consider maybe giving BC an extention at the end of his 4th year rather than firing him.

This team has been so unstable and crappy (even if they were good it always ended up with the team being in cap hell) its almost like you have to create that stable notion just to attract any prime time GMs.

Just my take

babyface 02-24-2009 01:08 AM

Even if you fire BC, who the hell will you replace him with? And what happens when the new GM can't deliver? You fire him too?

Windex 02-24-2009 01:54 AM

If he can improve the team by trading Bosh I say do it.
Are we going to tie BC's hands by telling him not to trade the most valuable asset.
Why does he have to persuade Bosh to stay? he's been the third best player on the court for the past month.

The bottom line is he has to persuade fans to buy tickets first, Bosh contract extension second

zachus 02-24-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by babyface (Post 148776)
Even if you fire BC, who the hell will you replace him with? And what happens when the new GM can't deliver? You fire him too?

Seems to be how the system works here.

henrymakepeace 02-24-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kg1585 (Post 148674)
Even with this horrible record, I doubt BC is on the hot seat. MLSE cares about money, and that is what BC has brought them.

Right, we are #9 in the ticket sales list and the owners make tons of money. I don't think they care about building a contender. If Toronto makes the playoffs and play a few games they think the GM is an over-achiever.

Windex 02-24-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by henrymakepeace (Post 148798)
Right, we are #9 in the ticket sales list and the owners make tons of money. I don't think they care about building a contender. If Toronto makes the playoffs and play a few games they think the GM is an over-achiever.

Why is MLSE strengthening TFC then?

The only team that can survive being bad for a long time are the Leafs.
As a business MLSE knows the have to put a good product together.

Superjudge 02-24-2009 09:28 AM

I find it very interesting that the writer both criticized BC's move in a way on the Marion/Oneal situation, but late ron, totally called out ONeal fr he disgraceful showing against Orlando, basically raising the issue of his possible non-value without actually saying it.

Pretty safe article, fence sittish

m5racer 02-24-2009 11:46 AM

Fresh on the radio, not shure if its just the Maple leafs team, or the Maple leafs Entertainment franchise, (i think its just the leafs)

But they are the most profitable sports franchise yet again. Value 400 million USD. BC aint going anywhere cvonsidering we are 14th in the east, yet 9th in ticket sales out of 30

'trane 02-24-2009 12:39 PM

nvm - doc beat me to it.


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