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Old 03-06-2011, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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While Calderon will never be an elite defender, he's shown an increasing willingness to fight harder through screens of late, a better ability to read his matchup and play his distance and angles accordingly and he's able to provide an extra second of resistance on drives to give his teammates time to react and get into position to stop penetration. It's worth noting that the Raptors have been consistently outpacing their opponents in points in the paint lately, which shows not only a dedication on the team's part to attack rather than settle, but also a greater ability to prevent teams from penetrating at will and abusing the Raptors at the basket. Calderon's improved perimeter defence has been a great aid to that cause.

Of course, just about everything Calderon has done since being elevated into the starting lineup this season has been an improvement for him. Since being promoted after Jarrett Jack was traded to New Orleans, Calderon has averaged 10.6 ppg and 10.4 apg, with those assist numbers reaching as high as 11.4 apg in the month of February. The stability he has brought to the point guard position on a tremendously young team has been invaluable. He's leading the league in assist-to-turnover ratio (4.16-to-1), he's getting a group of teammates that can't create their own shots or open looks, and he has helped his team get to the top of the NBA in fastbreak points per game (19.2). His willingness to advance the ball with a pass instead of a dribble has been a substantial area of growth for Calderon, as has his willingness to let other people bring the ball up the court when appropriate, since both were huge areas of weakness for Calderon when Jay Triano took over the team more than two years ago. It can be said that Calderon is probably playing his most well-rounded basketball right now at the age of 29.

This is particularly important because as of today it looks like the Raptors are going to need him to man the point guard spot beyond just this season.

Jerryd Bayless, the backup guard brought in when Jack was sent out, has struggled mightily as a traditional point guard and looks much better suited to playing a Leandro Barbosa-type of scoring guard role off of the bench. Bayless simply doesn't have a knack for controlling the game like Calderon, especially in terms of balancing his offence with his passing. He's extremely turnover-prone (he leads the team in turnovers per 36 minutes), he holds the ball for too long and he generally looks uncomfortable as the quarterback for the team's offence. The Raptors should be working to groom him as a Barbosa-Terry-Crawford-type of sixth-man as opposed to wedging him into a playmaker's mold

There is also very little chance the Raptors find their solution in the draft. Duke's Kyrie Irving represents the lone transformative point guard prospect in this year's draft crop. Unless the Raptors can get lucky in the lottery and snatch a top-two seed, and they'd have to leapfrog Cleveland and Sacramento in the process because both of those teams will target Irving as well, then it's far more likely that the Raptors end up with a forward on draft night, not their future point guard.

While the team would surely like to get younger and more athletic at the position at some point, the fact that Calderon has been more than holding his own of late alleviates the need to upgrade the position right away. With size, post defence, perimeter defence, three-point shooting and depth and leadership all major areas of want for the club, being able to address those areas without also having to hit a home run by acquiring a new point guard could really help Colangelo prioritize in the summer shopping season.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jose the "good shooter" forgot to show up in London. 2010-2011 Jose (44% shooter) showed up instead.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The argument has to made. Do you think that if maybe we gave the reins fully to Jose he could have developed into a good starting 1.Maybe having TJ and Jack around made Jose feel threatened and his game was never able to develop to its full potential. and because hes such a good team guy he never made a huge deal about it. Did BC devalue this asset unintentionally? Or does he just suck?
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Jose the "good shooter" forgot to show up in London. 2010-2011 Jose (44% shooter) showed up instead.
His shot has been awful and inconsitent most of the season. If it weren't for a good 4-6 week stretch he had hitting shots his FG% would be awful. Instead, if I'm not mistaken it's the worst FG% of his career or since his first season.

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Old 03-07-2011, 07:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Bayless+Barbosa(+Weems) doesn't work well. All three tend to make same decisions (go one on one or pass the hot potato, not creating for others)
Perhaps JJohnson or JWright in the same lineup could improve ball movement?
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As long as Jose is Healthy he's a really good PG.

We'll see how long he's healthy.
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I still tend towards seeing him as a really good backup, as well as a guy that could be a starter while a young guy was eased into the starting role. I could certainly live with him as a starter for a couple more years, but I don't trust his health and stamina over a marathon of a season. That's something that could become less of a problem though - it's possible that his body holds up from here on in. What it comes down to for me is that there are a ton of holes on this team, and his play this season has not stood out as one of the most glaring holes.
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'll make him take his vitamins. He'll be fine.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree with LX entirely.

I just can't be confident he will be healthy, I tried that, he just keeps getting hurt.

That said, healthy, and with a chip on his shoulder, he's pretty damned good.
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trade him asap.
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yup. his trade value is as high as its ever going to get. i just hope he can stay healthy long enough to keep that trade value from hitting the shitter again.
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Take a paycut Jose!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then people will embrace you!!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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If he takes a pay cut ... great guy to have on the team.
Either as the second unit guy or someone helping our PG of the future ... we just don't have the PG of he future. JB is certainly not it.
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keep jose until we have a new starting pg.
Jose would be a great mentor off the bench for any new pg in the game.
And he loves toronto.

I wonder what him and rubio would be like as tandem PG's
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trade him asap.
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Jose is a mediocre pg on a team that is 17/46 ...currently 26th in a 30 team league...30 games behind 1st place in their conference
his shot is consistently inconsistent
his defence is terrible
injuries are always a concern
salary is astronomical when compared to his talent
seems like a nice guy

trade him ASAP
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Does everyone forget that the trade deadline has passed?

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I'm all for trading Jose in the offseason if a better replacement or prospect (read: Kyrie Irving) is secured. But if not, just trading Jose with no replacement in check is idiotic. We go from a team with a starting PG to a team with a gaping hole, and teams will consider our desparation to fill the spot in trades.

Right now we could probably easily get a guy like Jonny Flynn in the offseason (especially since Rubio is reportedly coming over this offseason). If we just dump Jose first, then they will want a lot more for Flynn, since we desparately need someone to run the point.

That is why dumping Bargnani for nothing is also ill advised. We become like so many other NBA teams with no reliable player at C.
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Does everyone forget that the trade deadline has passed?

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I'm all for trading Jose in the offseason if a better replacement or prospect (read: Kyrie Irving) is secured. But if not, just trading Jose with no replacement in check is idiotic. We go from a team with a starting PG to a team with a gaping hole, and teams will consider our desparation to fill the spot in trades.

Right now we could probably easily get a guy like Jonny Flynn in the offseason (especially since Rubio is reportedly coming over this offseason). If we just dump Jose first, then they will want a lot more for Flynn, since we desparately need someone to run the point.

That is why dumping Bargnani for nothing is also ill advised. We become like so many other NBA teams with no reliable player at C.
i'm going to assume that 'everyone' and 'idiotic' refers to me, since i hold some of the positions you seem to be arguing against.

-i said trade him asap. that includes an understanding of the trade deadline. in this case, asap begins right after our last game of the season. that's why i didn't say 'trade him right now'.

-dumping jose for nothing is exactly what we need. cap flexibility has some value, although that is unpredictable. but he is useless to us. we will be terrible again next year, and having jose is not going to change that. with him we may win an additional 5 games, and that is being generous. we are better off without him, even if thast means losing, and he clearly has no future on this team as long as he is getting paid that much.

johnny flynn is most certainly not a solution for us. but if there is no one suitable, i'd rather lose with a d-league guy making nothing than lose with a low-quality nba player making $9 mil.

time to move on. jose is the past and he needs to go. he has no value going forward ecept as an extremely expensive mentor that has never won anything significant at the nba level. we don't need to spend that kind of money to mentor someone on how to bring the ball up and pass to our best player, nor do we need a mentor on bringing drinks at half time. after that, i have no idea what he has to teach.
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i'm going to assume that 'everyone' and 'idiotic' refers to me, since i hold some of the positions you seem to be arguing against.

-i said trade him asap. that includes an understanding of the trade deadline. in this case, asap begins right after our last game of the season. that's why i didn't say 'trade him right now'.

-dumping jose for nothing is exactly what we need. cap flexibility has some value, although that is unpredictable. but he is useless to us. we will be terrible again next year, and having jose is not going to change that. with him we may win an additional 5 games, and that is being generous. we are better off without him, even if thast means losing, and he clearly has no future on this team as long as he is getting paid that much.

johnny flynn is most certainly not a solution for us. but if there is no one suitable, i'd rather lose with a d-league guy making nothing than lose with a low-quality nba player making $9 mil.

time to move on. jose is the past and he needs to go. he has no value going forward ecept as an extremely expensive mentor that has never won anything significant at the nba level. we don't need to spend that kind of money to mentor someone on how to bring the ball up and pass to our best player, nor do we need a mentor on bringing drinks at half time. after that, i have no idea what he has to teach.
Cold and clear cut view ... I don't see it quite so clear cut, but I appreciate your thoughts.
I'm only worried that we leave ourself with the draft and FA as the only means to get a PG. If Caldy is gone, we lose almost all negotiation power.
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i'm not sure we have any negotiation power in the first place.
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