Chisholm: Triano Sending the Wrong Message?
Old 03-25-2010, 02:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The thing is though; despite near nightly locker pleas for increased effort and intensity by some, the most egregious offenders feel no need to pick up the slack because the coach feels no need to discipline them for their self-made limitations. Heck, Calderon was PROMOTED last week instead of being reprimanded for his complete lack of defensive execution. Coach says he likes the way the offense runs when Calderon has the ball, but has offense really been the issue these last few weeks? Has anyone really watched this listless team since the All-Star break as they rack up losses and say to themselves ''if only this team could fix its offensive attack?'' I didn't think so.

The message that promoting Calderon sends to the troops, then, is that one is rewarded for positive offensive performances and not for positive defensive effort. In fact, one can be a wretched defender but they'll be gifted with a starting spot so long as they are perceived to be a better option on offense. No wonder Reggie Evans is always looking to post-up instead of boxing-out, or that Sonny Weems would rather jack a transition jumper than stop an odd-numbered fast break score. The message being sent in Raptor-land is that if you impact the team on offense, you get promoted.

Now, obviously this is a bit of an over-simplification of the matter, but remember this all comes back to accountability. How can Triano preach defense in practice or in the huddle when he has said loud and clear with his actions that defense is a secondary priority for him. Look at the Raptors starting five right now; is there a worse five-man defensive unit that the team could assemble with its 12-man rotation? Statistically, the book on this team is that they are not only the season's worst defensive outfit but they are competing for historically bad status, yet defense is still not prioritized with accountability.


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Dead on. Finally, Triano is gonna start feeling the heat for the many bonehead decisions he's made.
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I have a feeling that Jose being inserted into the starting 5 had a lot to do with his agent prodding to get him there. I think it was about Jose having signed here as a starter. And they probably need to put him in there to get anything back for him in the future. There's just a not a lot of sense to be found that leads me to conclude that they are doing everything just to get wins.
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Dead on. Finally, Triano is gonna start feeling the heat for the many bonehead decisions he's made.
I really find my finger pointed more firmly at BC.
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This team is a trainwreck and a half right now.
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This could not be written any more accurately... every guy comes on the floor thinking he is the second option offensively... Unfortunately Bargnani and Turkoglu, our true number 2 and 3 options, defer to these guys... probably because the coaches are preaching everyone to score.... there has to be a hierarchy...

Jose decided he was a shooter last night before a pg
Evans has had more post-ups this year than the last ten
I could complain for days but this hasn't changed all year... and it was a problem last year with guys like Moon.
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I really find my finger pointed more firmly at BC.
Of course, he hired him. But BC has imo put together a pretty talented roster. Too bad he hired the wrong dickhead to coach these said players.
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I really find my finger pointed more firmly at BC.
How can it be BC? They have the talent, but they don't follow a gameplan, they don't execute on defence and they have no accountability... How can that be BC's fault?
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How can it be BC? They have the talent, but they don't follow a gameplan, they don't execute on defence and they have no accountability... How can that be BC's fault?
Bingo! This is the most talent we've seen here in at least 7 years. The problem is the coach who seems lost, doesn't hold his players accountable and is unbelievably stubborn, so much so that he's continued to start a rookie who's been inconsistent all year long. If we make the playoffs this season, guaranteed he'll continue to start our 20yr old rookie SG. He's a complete tool!
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Of course, he hired him. But BC has imo put together a pretty talented roster. Too bad he hired the wrong dickhead to coach these said players.
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We have a very nice roster, except nobody to discipline their asses.
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Bingo! This is the most talent we've seen here in at least 7 years. The problem is the coach who seems lost, doesn't hold his players accountable and is unbelievably stubborn, so much so that he's continued to start a rookie who's been inconsistent all year long. If we make the playoffs this season, guaranteed he'll continue to start our 20yr old rookie SG. He's a complete tool!
it was a .500 team on paper at the start of the year. we're a .500 team now.

BC put together a squad full of mediocre to poor defenders.... and guess what? our defence sucks. shocking, i know.

JT has had his ups and downs as a coach in his first full season. but put the lynch mob away, because it doesn't place the blame where it belongs.
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Bingo! This is the most talent we've seen here in at least 7 years. The problem is the coach who seems lost, doesn't hold his players accountable and is unbelievably stubborn, so much so that he's continued to start a rookie who's been inconsistent all year long. If we make the playoffs this season, guaranteed he'll continue to start our 20yr old rookie SG. He's a complete tool!
Starting the rookie isn't as bad as allowing guys to just get their shots regardless of a flow...

Sometimes they try and get Bargs hot, only to go away from him for ten minutes. Likewise with Hedo, they run a couple plays and then go back to the ddump it to Bosh routine... Evans gets more plays for him than Bargs. Wright, Weems try to be the guy that ends droughts... There is so much wrong with this team's cohesion.... it's brutal to watch...

It's almost like we have a bunch of Mike James' looking to be the hero for an expansion team...
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Bingo! This is the most talent we've seen here in at least 7 years. The problem is the coach who seems lost, doesn't hold his players accountable and is unbelievably stubborn, so much so that he's continued to start a rookie who's been inconsistent all year long. If we make the playoffs this season, guaranteed he'll continue to start our 20yr old rookie SG. He's a complete tool!
If you think that this team is "talented" then you're no different from Triano.

This team has a lot of guys who can put the ball in the hoop.

It has very few (esp. in the starting rotation) who can defend and rebound the ball.

At least in PHX BC brought 3 all-stars together that all complimented each other perfectly.

Here in TOR he's simply grabbed into a bunch of square pegs and demanded that Triano jam them into round holes.
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No wonder Reggie Evans is always looking to post-up instead of boxing-out, or that Sonny Weems would rather jack a transition jumper than stop an odd-numbered fast break score. The message being sent in Raptor-land is that if you impact the team on offense, you get promoted.
BANG ON... Love that... I've been thinking this all morning prior to reading this!
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I have a feeling that Jose being inserted into the starting 5 had a lot to do with his agent prodding to get him there.
YUP!

Anyone hear the BC interview about a week ago he did with Bob Mcowan prior to the Lakers game?

BC said he had players agents calling him everyday asking about there client.

If your a player you dont talk directly to your GM or Coach... You get your Agent to do it for you... this way you can deny you said it if shit hits the fan... Thats why the Agents also make the big bux!
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If you think that this team is "talented" then you're no different from Triano.
Then i guess nobody here is either. Go take a look at the posts from AUG 2009- November 2009. Take a look at the thoughts put fourth here about this roster. If we had a better coach that held these players accountable we'd have a much better record. I know you're a Triano supporter, but this guy is out to lunch without a sandwich.
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Then i guess nobody here is either. Go take a look at the posts from AUG 2009- November 2009. Take a look at the thoughts put fourth here about this roster. If we had a better coach that held these players accountable we'd have a much better record. I know you're a Triano supporter, but this guy is out to lunch without a sandwich.
find my posts.... .500 team.
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Isn't Iavaroni the defensive specialist? Why does all the grief go directly to Triano instead of Marc?

Why were the Raps playing zone against a good 3 shooting team in Utah?

This team has a glaring shortcoming, and it's in Iavaroni's department.
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Of course, he hired him. But BC has imo put together a pretty talented roster. Too bad he hired the wrong dickhead to coach these said players.
Totally agree, the team we have has a lot of talent. BC did a great job. Jay Triano was the mistake, I think we should have kept him as an assistant. That's what he's known for, what he helped with Team USA, and what he should have been in Toronto.
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I like Chisholm's writing and this is another example. I'm really disapointed in the team right now, top to bottom.

As for Jose, the ONLY good that can come of him starting is perhaps a marginal increase in his trade value.
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