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Chisholm: Raptors not set up to tank
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![]() I agree with many things said in this piece. It will not be easy to tank this season.
However, the real question is, EVEN if we have to lose a lot of value while trading gay/lowry and EVEN if we only get a 5th pick in the draft, is it still better than to continue with this roster. It comes down to whether you believe this roster with minor tweaks can ever compete for a title or not. I don't, but if TL and DC think it can - I'd be willing to buy it given their level of competence. |
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I don't think it can compete for a title, and I doubt they do either. But i'm guessing they're going to use the next 6 months to evaluate who they believe can be part of the roster that can eventually contend and trade the rest but they won't give them away to tank, thankfully. |
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If anybody has any ideas of how we could achieve a retool without blowing up, I'd be happy to change my mind. I offered this challenge many, many times to the anti-tank crowd and have yet to see anything. |
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I see that option above, keeping the core long term, and tanking as the three viable options, and I know which one I lean towards. |
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at MSG failing a pointless 360 degree dunk during
a losing streak
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![]() While they are not set up to tank, there is nothing to say that many of these guys who are prepping for the season because they have something to prove would not be moved when they have maximized their value....at which point they are bound to get better trade returns.
And even if they don't get moved, I'd look to teams that will be impatient to deal with like the Knicks and Lakers. The Knicks could even lose Carmello to the Lakers if Bargnani and Amare prove useless to keep him around. |
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![]() If they bring something back, that cuts into the cap space. To me, if they trade the two of them, they should do so in December or so, and try to bring back youth and picks, and tank the rest of the way. If they wait and try to bring back equal talent, they'll be bringing back equal salary as well, and will lose out on even that slim hope of playing the free agent game (if the direction is win now, that is).
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Waiting for DD's 1st in game wind mill Dunk
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![]() might not be on topic but heard from a good source that mitchell wiggins (andrew wiggins dad) is going to be hired by the Raptors as some sort of scout.
ujiri planting the seed early!:mu: |
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![]() Unless Rudy Gay has a monster year there is no way he's walking away from 19 million. He would have to go so far and play so well above what he has to justify walking away from the option year. Just don't see it happening even for a longer term.
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![]() Are the Cavs, Wizards and Pelicans tanking? They have their franchise players with Irving, Wall and Anthony Davis and are win mode now. Raps have Jonas. They have lost their best players (Chris Paul and Lebron) the last couple of years, and were bottom feeders during this period. Sometimes alienating your fans and the losing has to stop, and your franchise has to become relevant in the NBA landscape. The Raps are not taking the tanking approach, and they are a team set up to make the playoffs!!
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I would add a 4th option: trade gay + assets or lowry + assets for a disgruntled elite player. This would assume either ross blossoms, or we use multiple #1 picks in future seasons to sweeten the deal. For example: lowry + next season's pick for rondo. Quite unlikely still, but I guess it's possible. |
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