Chisholm: Raptors have a dilemma with Derozan
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A more damning indictment of this wing combination, though, is this: not only have DeRozan and Gay not shot 50% each in the same game, more often than not when one does shoot 50% the other one shoots for a terrible percentage. When DeRozan has shot 50% or greater in a game, Gay has averaged 32.5% shooting. When Gay has shot 50% or greater in a game, DeRozan has averaged 35.9% shooting. Basically, when one excels and becomes the focus of the offense, the other one suffers dramatically. Not only that, the Raptors are one game below .500 in games where one of DeRozan or Gay shoots 50% or better, which isn't surprising given that one's success tends to be offset by the other's failures.

So is all of this meant to suggest that the Raptors would have been better off letting DeRozan walk this summer? No, but perhaps using him in a sign-and-trade to help ease roster duplication would have helped balance out the team's attack. It's worth noting that while the DeRozan-Gay tandem ranks 31st on the roster in offensive rating, Gay and Terrence Ross rank fourth (101.5 points scored per 100 possessions versus 105.8 points scored per 100 possessions).

The reality of the situation, though, is that DeRozan was inked to a four-year, $38-million deal back in October, and it is unlikely that team will even explore trading him as long as Bryan Colangelo is at the helm. Despite the uninspiring fit, the Raptors seem enamored with the prospect of going forward with this pair manning the starting wing spots (perhaps it's also worth mentioning that the DeRozan, Gay and Kyle Lowry troika ranks 58th on the team in terms of offensive rating from a three-man combination, though defensively they measure out very nicely).

This is why so many pundits are only lukewarm about the prospects of this team going forward. The organization can nip-and-tuck around the edges of the roster this summer, but that can only help so much when the marquee pieces fit together to uncomfortably.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm being dead serious, I'd raither keep derozan than gay
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I'm being dead serious, I'd raither keep derozan than gay
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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players need defining roles offensively, that's all on casey.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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gay just got traded, a nice offseason will get DD and rudys chemistry going, he's not use to playing with an offensive talented 2 like derozan
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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gay just got traded, a nice offseason will get DD and rudys chemistry going, he's not use to playing with an offensive talented 2 like derozan
oj mayo>>>>DD
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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DD>>>>oj mayo
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would take Mayo over Derozan with the way this team is constructed. Not only that, he makes half the money, not that that'll last. lol

He's a far better shooter, especially from distance (41 3pt% this season, career 38 3pt%) and he's a slight upgrade defensively.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Mayo is a better shooter, has more range, is a better ballhandler and passer than DD.
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Mayo is a better shooter, has more range, is a better ballhandler and passer than DD.
Yeah, pretty much. To me it's a no brainer and he's a pure SG. Derozan is a little more of a tweener.
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Yeah, pretty much. To me it's a no brainer and he's a pure SG. Derozan is a little more of a tweener.
Mayo is a pure SG. DD is a semi-tweener but physically it's best for DD to play SG than SF as I don't think he'd be able to cope with the physicality of other SFs.
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Mayo is a pure SG. DD is a semi-tweener but physically it's best for DD to play SG than SF as I don't think he'd be able to cope with the physicality of other SFs.
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Amen. If Colangelo is here next year I think I'm going into Raptor hibernation.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't really see us getting Mayo tho.
It's hard to choose between Gay or Derozan. Since Derozan is still developing, we might be looking at Gay's best right now. And then the contract difference is huge, while their games aren't THAT much of a difference.

I like both, I mean Lebron and Wade are similar and they work. But they're both phenomenal on BOTH ends. Unlike these two.
but if they can't fit... Which ever gets the best deal. It'd be easier to trade Demar because of Ross...

DEMAR NOOO. He prolly wont get traded. Cause... BC.

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Old 03-22-2013, 12:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I would strongly consider shipping them both. Only way we can actually think of this even being a possibility is if BC gets removed. But that remains to be seen.
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I would strongly consider shipping them both. Only way we can actually think of this even being a possibility is if BC gets removed. But that remains to be seen.
Both? Oh fuck that bullshit. Gotta just love this fanbase!
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:47 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I say we keep them both for next season at least.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Let's have them have a summer together and a training camp together to see where this goes before we talk about it who to trade and what not.
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Even Wade and LeBaby needed some timeel eachother out. I'm willing to watch next season.

Besides. Position duplication is a bit of a Raptors tradition. :cookie:
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DD needs to go, he doesn't fit. He isn't a three and SG is just easier to fill. Gay and Ross are the future.
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