Chisholm: Raptors Center position
Old 11-30-2011, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The issue breaks down like this: Andrea Bargnani played centre last season for the club and failed miserably. Opposing centers averaged 21.1 ppg against him, he ranked dead last amongst centres in rebound rate at 8.6 (a career-low) and his help defence would best be described as non-existent. Long term, both Bryan Colangelo and head coach Dwane Casey see him as power forward, and would like to get him plenty of minutes at that position this season to see how he fares there. That's the core of the issue, anyway. But wait, there's more.

The Raptors need to start Bargnani at power forward this season because they need to evaluate two things: one, how badly his lack of defence would hurt them if he wasn't the team's last line of defence, and two, how much would it affect his rebounding if he wasn't tasked with fending off the opposing team's biggest player.

Essentially, they need to gauge if he'd be a suitable frontcourt partner for Valanciunas going forward, and perhaps more broadly, they need to assess how realistic it is to believe this team could seriously compete with him in the starting lineup going forward. In other words, if the team designs its entire starting five around mitigating his limitations, does he provide enough positives to make it worthwhile?
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Remember, there are not only other power forwards on this team, but if Bargnani proves unable to elevate his quality of play this year, they may outlast him on the roster, which makes their development as much of a priority as Bargnani's evaluation.

So, that means that while the team needs to move Bargnani (and his roughly 36 minutes per game) over to the power forward position for at least a good chunk of those minutes, they also need to find regular, productive minutes for Ed Davis and Amir Johnson in the frontcourt as well, whether or not they import a new starting center. Davis, in particular, probably warrants more than the 24.6 minutes he averaged last season, especially after averaging 10.5 ppg and 8.2 rpg as a starter in 17 games.
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What most likely will happen
If they were open to trading Bargnani or Johnson, they could look to significantly reshuffle the deck this season in anticipation of next summer's big man heavy draft and the arrival of Valanciunas. You'd be hard pressed to find too many observers who see Bargnani in particular as a starter on a legitimate contending NBA team (which one assumes the Raptors are at least going to try and construct), and making him someone else's problem to work around may simply be an inevitability.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The answer will come December 9th boys.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wha? He doesn't think he'll be third in voting for MVP?
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Wha? He doesn't think he'll be third in voting for MVP?
third? why so modest?
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Wha? He doesn't think he'll be third in voting for MVP?
That spot is for Bosh... come on now. MVP! MVP| MVP!
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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what makes one think Bargs will fare better as PF? 4 of top 5 in RPG last season are power forwards, and plenty of power forwards are known to be solid rebounders (love, zach, blake, hump, pau, bosh, aldridge, kg). If he plays 4, every capable starting PF will have a field day grabbing rebounds in a game vs raptors.

He either needs to come off the bench, or shipped out in a trade. we're going nowhere with this guy in the frontcourt starting. Having him in a sixth man role, he will kill the opposing teams' second unit with his scoring punch.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I trust in Casey's ability to decide where to play AB.... he's in a better position for judging than all of us.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Put me in the Bargs for 6th man PF bandwagon plz.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i for a trade or as the 3rd big men coming of the bench !
i would prefer a trade !!! bring a 1st round draftand a type player, and we will have more than he offer us right now !
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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To many good power fowards in the Top 10 for the next draft. Plus lets see what Ed Davis can do in his second year. I'll take any of the top prospect power forward in the 2012 draft or Ed Davis over Bargnani. Like the article says, its hard to picture Bargnani as a starter in a contending team. Let the pussy have the playing time from the bench.
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