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LX 04-15-2011 10:25 PM

CHISHOLM: Raps frontcourt development
 
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Prior to the surgery Kleiza was scoring an unimpressive 11.2 ppg on a three-season low 43.8% shooting. His three-point shot was connecting at an abysmal 29.8% rate, and his PER was at a career-low 10.1. He was yo-yoed into all sorts of roles, trying to find something that worked for him, but inconsistency and turnovers plagued him wherever he played and now he must contend with a grueling recovery on top of all of that before he'll even play again.

At the other end of the spectrum is James Johnson, the late-season addition that came in and won over fans with his aggressive play, his ability to play the point-forward role and his willingness to play defence and rebound. While he showed a lot in the team's last 25 games, more than most expected after barely playing for a year-and-a-half in Chicago, he didn't quite show enough to make the Raptors feel like they'd found their future wing mate to DeMar DeRozan. So this is where management's decision making comes into play.

Here's what the Raptors can choose from:

1. Keep Kleiza and Johnson as the team's two options, and let Kleiza have the chance to earn the starting spot back when he recovers from his surgery around next January.

2. Keep Kleiza and Johnson as the team's two options, but allow Johnson to continue as the starter regardless, and force Kleiza to ease his way back into playing off of the bench.

3. Use their draft pick to select Derrick Williams or Harrison Barnes, and make whomever they select to start at small forward (regardless if it's not their natural position) and force Johnson and Kleiza to jostle for backup minutes.

4. Use free agency to go after another young piece, like Jeff Green, Thaddeus Young or Wilson Chandler, and force Johnson and Kleiza to jostle for backup minutes.

5. Use free agency to go after a veteran leader like Grant Hill or Shane Battier, forcing Johnson and Kleiza to jostle for the right to eventually emerge as the team's small forward of the future by playing behind (and learning from) a respected veteran.

See, there are a lot of different directions that this team could go in. Both Kleiza and Johnson will almost assuredly be around next year since Kleiza is basically untradeable and Johnson is too intriguing to let go. However, neither one locked up the starting spot during their time (though Johnson came close) and that will have management weighing their options with regards to the position all off-season long.

So, without even factoring in the future of Andrea Bargnani, the Raptors frontcourt looks both full of promise while also being in complete flux. They have talent, but as of today they don't have enough legit talent that is ready to make noise on a Playoff-caliber club. Ed Davis looks poised to be that good in a year or two, and the Johnson's certainly hold their appeal, but for the Raptors to take the next step as a franchise, they simply need more, either from internal development or from importing outside talent.

FoldedLaundry 04-15-2011 10:30 PM

When I read frontcourt I thought of Ed, Amir, and Bargs :P

Those are good points and it seems to coincide with what we Raptors fans are discussing here on a nightly basis. Jeff Green I would want, but Boston wants him as their future SF post-Pierce. Thad Young would be nice (another Weems/Graham lookalike) but I can see Philly trying to keep him. Thad + Ed = 2 lefties! :D Wilson Chandler would be great here, though might be hard to pry away from Denver. As for the veterans, those a re good choices and we may be able to bring them here.

EggsToTheBBQ 04-15-2011 10:31 PM

Unless the Raptors draft a SF, I think they'll be happy to see how JJ develops during the off season.

jeffb 04-15-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EggsToTheBBQ (Post 530782)
Unless the Raptors draft a SF, I think they'll be happy to see how JJ develops during the off season.

Ideally:

-Draft a PG

-Sign a SF

-Trade for a Center

DuCa00795 04-15-2011 10:54 PM

Kleiza just needs time to rest. If he can get back to his world championship form I am fine with him and Johnson at the SF.

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DuCa00795 (Post 530789)
Kleiza just needs time to rest. If he can get back to his world championship form I am fine with him and Johnson at the SF.

ya same here

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 530785)
Ideally:

-Draft a PG

-Sign a SF

-Trade for a Center

+1 i agree with you 100%

FoldedLaundry 04-15-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DuCa00795 (Post 530789)
Kleiza just needs time to rest. If he can get back to his world championship form I am fine with him and Johnson at the SF.

I wouldn't mind that either

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:44 PM

SF is covered for now, our biggest priority is PG and C

jeffb 04-15-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptors_ (Post 530798)
SF is covered for now, our biggest priority is PG and C

Johnson/Weems is covered?

Keep in mind Weems most likely isn't back next season and Kleiza may not be back until Christmas.

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 530801)
Johnson/Weems is covered?

correction Johnson/Kleiza. Weems is a free agent and we ain't resigning him

jeffb 04-15-2011 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptors_ (Post 530802)
correction Johnson/Kleiza. Weems is a free agent and we ain't resigning him

Correction Kleiza won't be back in all likelyhood until Christmas. Now what?

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 530804)
Correction Kleiza won't be back in all likelyhood until Christmas. Now what?

how do u know? show me where you got this

Raptors_ 04-15-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 530804)
Correction Kleiza won't be back in all likelyhood until Christmas. Now what?

then you can play back up for us

jeffb 04-15-2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptors_ (Post 530807)
then you can play back up for us

Nahhh, i'm busy. Plus i refuse to play in Canada on a losing team, with a shit coach where i'll get taxed to death. :v:

DSWC 04-16-2011 12:28 AM

I agree with this:
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Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
Ideally:

-Draft a PG

-Trade for a Center
and I agree with this:

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Originally Posted by DuCa00795 View Post
Kleiza just needs time to rest. If he can get back to his world championship form I am fine with him and Johnson at the SF.

fk24 04-16-2011 01:07 AM

We need a good Centre. PF and C position are not interchangable at all.

IGetAir 04-16-2011 03:27 AM

It's obvious that regardless of whether we decide to keep bargnani or not, we need a Center to be most effective.

x_kaptain_x 04-16-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fk24 (Post 530822)
We need a good Centre. PF and C position are not interchangable at all.

I agree, we need someone with a C mentality; Barg's said so himself, his natural position is a PF.

Shifty.py 04-16-2011 01:46 PM

Intersting article.
But it doesnt even mention that every single of named forwards are capable of playing both forward positions, some of them are much better at PF.

Why no mention? Because under Triano such thing doesn't happen.
Leave it up to BC to bring talent, and find a proper coach that can utilize the assets he has without complaining after every game.


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