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Acie 02-22-2011 08:16 PM

Chisholm: Nothing seems to happen at the right time for Raps
 
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Why does it seem like in the Bryan Colangelo era, the Toronto Raptors are forced to make big, franchise-altering decisions at the worst possible times? To whit:

June 28, 2006 - Armed with their first number-one overall pick in team history, Raptors face one of the weakest draft classes in six years. They ultimately select Andrea Bargnani, who has proven to be one of the stronger selections from that class, but he is not the franchise-altering talent that teams like Orlando, Chicago and the Clippers got with their first-overall selections.

June 30, 2006 - Feeling they needed a starting-caliber point guard, the Raptors trade their biggest trade asset, Charlie Villanueva, to Milwaukee for T.J. Ford, only to discover early in the 2006-07 season that Jose Calderon would emerge as a legit point guard in his second year, negating somewhat the need for Ford.

April 24, 2007 - Sam Mitchell wins Coach of the Year, ostensibly forcing the team to re-sign him as head coach despite the team's need for an upgrade at the position. His contract expired at the perfect time for the team to go out and hire a more experienced replacement to take the team to the next level, but Mitchell's COY award made losing him look like a worse PR gaffe than signing him back. He was fired eighteen months later.

July 9, 2009 - Armed with a truckload of cap space to use in one last attempt to field a competitive supporting cast for free-agent-to-be Chris Bosh, Toronto signs the best free agent on the market, Hedo Turkoglu, despite his age and questionable fit with the team. Despite the previous year offering guys like Josh Smith and Monta Ellis and the subsequent year offering the bounty of the FA class of 2010, 2009 was a weak year and the Raps were forced to buy in a seller's market in an attempt to retain their star. Hedo was traded away a year later.

Spring 2011 - Bryan Colangelo is up for a contract extension, but no one yet knows how well equipped he is to lead the Raptors through their current rebuilding process. That is the subject now up for further investigation.


LINK - TSN.ca

DonMughal 02-22-2011 08:29 PM

July 2011 - The Raptors go through a tough, long and losing season, yet there are high hopes as they are granted a top-3 pick in the 2011 draft. Unfortunately, this years draft is, once again, a very weak one for the Raptors with no player coming out that is capable of coming close to changing a franchise.

carp 02-22-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 512172)
July 2011 - The Raptors go through a tough, long and losing season, yet there are high hopes as they are granted a top-3 pick in the 2011 draft. Unfortunately, this years draft is, once again, a very weak one for the Raptors with no player coming out that is capable of coming close to changing a franchise.

August 2011 - July 2015
Fans constantly bitch and moan that Colangelo should have taken Perry Jones instead of Sullinger, who has since emerged to be a top 5 player from the draft while Perry the third has become Tyrus the second....

DonMughal 02-22-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 512178)
August 2011 - July 2015
Fans constantly bitch and moan that Colangelo should have taken Perry Jones instead of Sullinger, who has since emerged to be a top 5 player from the draft while Perry the third has become Tyrus the second....

I'm gunna sound like one of those fans right now, but woooahhh drafting Sullinger? He's a big man, we got enough. We got enough.

carp 02-22-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 512180)
I'm gunna sound like one of those fans right now, but woooahhh drafting Sullinger? He's a big man, we got enough. We got enough.

well played good sir.... this draft will be depressingly weak

LX 02-22-2011 09:01 PM

So a more experienced coach was going to replace Sam? Why do we have Triano then?

Blaze 02-22-2011 09:02 PM

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Despite the previous year offering guys like Josh Smith and Monta Ellis and the subsequent year offering the bounty of the FA class of 2010, 2009 was a weak year and the Raps were forced to buy in a seller's market in an attempt to retain their star.
Wait, wait we were offered those two guys and we didn't jump on it. I hope I'm just reading it wrong because even back then those guys had huge potential.

carp 02-22-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze (Post 512214)
Wait, wait we were offered those two guys and we didn't jump on it. I hope I'm just reading it wrong because even back then those guys had huge potential.

no, it's poorly written.... it's talking about the offering being the available FA class.

Claudius 02-23-2011 11:07 AM

It's a fair assessment, but it somewhat wreaks of a 'woe is me' complex.

I wonder how many other teams/gm's face these same conditions in their yearly plans and adjust.

ERaz 02-23-2011 11:38 AM

Isn't it weird how it reads that the Raps needed an upgrade on the coach of the year? And that upgrade ended up being Jay? I don't follow.

jeffb 02-23-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ERaz (Post 512487)
Isn't it weird how it reads that the Raps needed an upgrade on the coach of the year? And that upgrade ended up being Jay? I don't follow.


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His contract expired at the perfect time for the team to go out and hire a more experienced replacement
He's right.

b55bgc 02-23-2011 01:28 PM

I really like how New York turned thier team around in the amount of a year.
Even when they didnt have Amare, they were playing very well together.
Toronto needs time to gel i think. I have faith.
2011 will be break out years for Davis and Derozan.

Psi 02-23-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by b55bgc (Post 512559)
I really like how New York turned thier team around in the amount of a year.
Even when they didnt have Amare, they were playing very well together.
Toronto needs time to gel i think. I have faith.
2011 will be break out years for Davis and Derozan.

The only reason New York turned around was because it was New York that would not have happened in ANY other markets (save MAYBE LA(/Miami Obviously))

rapsmannn 02-23-2011 02:19 PM

well we hired BC to build around Bosh, it was impossible task in hand, we got the the playoffs twice, probably should have made it last year if it wasn't for htat baby Turk and a Bosh injury, or his damn missed put back in the Golden State game

not bad job, its average, its not great or terrible,

even though we've had a bad season record wise we've seen progression In Demar Derozan, and Andrea Bargnani, two guys htat BC is tied to, and I like what i see I love watching both these guys play, so I would to see what he can do at the C,SF,PG position to improve this team

x_kaptain_x 02-23-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 512587)
well we hired BC to build around Bosh, it was impossible task in hand, we got the the playoffs twice, probably should have made it last year if it wasn't for htat baby Turk and a Bosh injury, or his damn missed put back in the Golden State game

not bad job, its average, its not great or terrible,

even though we've had a bad season record wise we've seen progression In Demar Derozan, and Andrea Bargnani, two guys htat BC is tied to, and I like what i see I love watching both these guys play, so I would to see what he can do at the C,SF,PG position to improve this team

Agreed, I just can't see Bargnani as the starting C on a competitive team.. I just can't see it..

MISAM38 02-23-2011 06:32 PM

December 21, 2012- Raptors relocate to Pittsburgh, causin natural disasters and eventual "end of the world"

Blaze 02-23-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 512224)
no, it's poorly written.... it's talking about the offering being the available FA class.

okay, thank you ;)

MISAM38 02-23-2011 06:44 PM

NY was baddd for a long time thou.


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