Chisholm: Jose Probably won't last the season in Toronto
Old 01-11-2010, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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That doesn't mean, though, that the Raptors are likely to stand pat leading up to the deadline. Despite Sunday's loss to the Celtics this team is red hot and will look to improve the roster with the hope of improving their position in the standings. This team is not perfectly built and there are some key areas that could use addressing between now and February 18th.

The first is dealing with the Calderon-Turkoglu redundancy. For the record, I don't hate Calderon or wish him ill, and I was in full support of re-signing him in 2008. At the time the deal made sense given the roster and the direction of the club. Also, given the information available at that time I'd support that decision again today. The problem is that the roster that surrounds him now doesn't suit him as a player. In fact, it only makes his defensive woes more hazardous because there are no defenders to cover his tracks and his skill set was replicated this summer with the Hedo signing. The Raptors have won two of the three games they've played since Calderon has returned to the lineup from injury, which proves he isn't a disastrous liability, but Hedo's reduced ball-handling responsibility in that time has clearly caused regression in his game and in his fit with the team. That means that one of them is going to have to move out to make way for the other.

If the Raptors can find a taker for Hedo's deal without killing the roster in the process they should go for it. However, what possible deal could that be? It's unlikely that Portland would want him after he spurned them this summer. Orlando's woes don't seem dire enough to get them to reverse their decision to not pay him $10-million-plus per year. Teams without playmaking point guards (Charlotte, Detroit, Houston, Indiana, Philadelphia and Washington) are almost all rebuilding clubs who'd have zero interest in moving good players out for a 30-year-old, unathletic small forward. Plus, when it comes right down to it, he is the team's best and most natural playmaker, and he has proven it when he has been given some control over the offence.
That means that Calderon is probably not going to last the season in Toronto. The club has too many other holes to fill to keep him around and he plays a position too in demand to let rot on the bench. Heck, the fact of the matter is he's too good to be a reserve on this iteration of the ballclub, where Jack and Turkoglu handily covered his absence in December (I also promise to make this the last time I write about this issue).
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What this trade also does for Toronto is put out a message to the NBA and it's followers that it is so confident that Chris Bosh will remain with the team that they have given New York the ability to sign him and another max guy outright and they still don't think he'll go.

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Old 01-11-2010, 10:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd rather get rid of Jack. Joe is much better then him and right now Jose is playing like his former self. I love it when he drives to the rim
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I'd rather get rid of Jack. Joe is much better then him and right now Jose is playing like his former self. I love it when he drives to the rim
too bad its a matter of time before the guy goes down again with yet another soft injury... I really like calderon, a lot, but something has to be done.
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get it done BC !
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Get what done?
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Get what done?
A trade for Jose I presume.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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A trade for Jose I presume.
Nobody wants him. He has a bad deal, is injury prone, and he isn't in the list of the top 20 PG's in the league

CP3
Deron
Rondo
Kidd
Parker
Westbrook
Rose
Billups
Nash
Jennings
Mo Williams
Baron Davis
Gilbert Arenas
Jameer Nelson
Tyreke Evans
Devin Harris
Bibby (sorry, he's better too)
Andre Miller
Monta Ellis
Rodney Stuckey

All these guys are better players (remember life is not only about offense) and/or are much more valuable (like Stuckey)
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Jose is a really good guy but he has to go.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that WAS would take Jose over Arenas right now lol...
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Is Jose+Hedo+Cash enough for Butler?
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Jose + ? + Expiring(maybe)
For
Butler...
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'd rather get rid of Jack. Joe is much better then him and right now Jose is playing like his former self. I love it when he drives to the rim
Agreed. But Jose is the one that will end up leaving.

Too many ball hogs on this team. Hedo can be given away for all I care, but BC can not affor to trade Hedo and JJ, so Jose is the one end up going. Too bad. Hope that they get an energetic Big with a desire to win for Jose
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We need one of:

Butler
Iggy
Hinrich
Martin
Sefolosha
Hamilton
Battier
Ellis
Foye
Mike Miller


Can one of them be had?

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Old 01-12-2010, 12:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well I would love to get Butler so we can complete out Killer B's but that if we can get him. Also who should we get for SG spot?
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Well I would love to get Butler so we can complete out Killer B's but that if we can get him. Also who should we get for SG spot?
Give Belli a chance!
I think he would be awsome if he learn to play under control. It may take a little while, but he have talent. Best of all, he trys hard and plays with energy and creativity. I beleive he could be BC's biggest success for this year's crop of signing.

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We need one of:

Butler
Iggy
Hinrich
Martin
Sefolosha
Hamilton
Battier
Ellis
Foye
Mike Miller


Can one of them be had?
I think most can be had.

Iggy, Ellis the hardest. sefolosha unlikely
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Is Jose+Hedo+Cash enough for Butler?
they want cap and possibly young guys. (Derozan?)
they'd only take Josť or Hedo if they have a follow up deal lined up i think
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Give Belli a chance!
Oh yea Belli he's a B also; I totally forgot about him ^_^. Yea when come to play off time or before play off Jay to start Belli and see how he does.

Anyways this off topic question but how you people put avatar; I look everywhere in the setting I dont see the avatar or signature.
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Anyways this off topic question but how you people put avatar; I look everywhere in the setting I dont see the avatar or signature.
User CP. left on the page. no sigs i think
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