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not gonna happen
maybe not 45...but there will be a hard cap...i don't see this league moving forward without one
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:20 PM   #42 (permalink)
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maybe not 45...but there will be a hard cap...i don't see this league moving forward without one
i would call it a flex cap. basically a hard cap + exceptions. eric smith thinks it'll be a 60mil flex cap which i agree with him on. this 45mil number is hard ball if the players don't accept the last 62mil flex cap offer.
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i would call it a flex cap. basically a hard cap + exceptions. eric smith thinks it'll be a 60mil flex cap which i agree with him on. this 45mil number is hard ball if the players don't accept the last 62mil flex cap offer.
Its a total bully move without a doubt. I'm wondering if the players understand that this time the NBA owners have learned from the NHL ones...the players don't really have leverage anymore. Honestly, they can strike all they want and get all pissy but at the end of the day the players are replaceable and I'm pretty sure those high school kids coming up will play for an average salary of 4-6 mil...beats flipping burgers.

Whether we like it or not, the league can handle a PR hit and like getting new players, the league knows there will be new fans to come with the up and comers.
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. this 45mil number is hard ball if the players don't accept the last 62mil flex cap offer.
imo the players have NO leverage this time around
it's like i tell my kids at Midget hockey (first eligible draft year)...at this point they are nothing more than a bag of meat with a hockey stick in their hands

players WILL accept an approx 33% pay cut...or they will sit at home and start looking for work at their local Walmart
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imo the players have NO leverage this time around
it's like i tell my kids at Midget hockey (first eligible draft year)...at this point they are nothing more than a bag of meat with a hockey stick in their hands

players WILL accept an approx 33% pay cut...or they will sit at home and start looking for work at their local Walmart
Like i said, the cap will likely stay around the same as currently constructed (60-62Mil), but will be either a hard cap or flex cap which is the right thing.
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The Blazers will give Oden a qualifying offer of $8.8 million. You want to spend more than that on a C who may never play another game and if he does will be at such high risk of injury that one wrong move and his career is done? I don't.
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The Blazers will give Oden a qualifying offer of $8.8 million. You want to spend more than that on a C who may never play another game and if he does will be at such high risk of injury that one wrong move and his career is done? I don't.
I would give him 3 year contract structured like this: 16/8/6
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Then I guess you're a GM who hates his franchise.
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Two perfect matches for this team are Gasol or Nene. First would create a Spanish connection, second the Brazilian. Maybe this would even help luring one of them to Toronto.
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i like dalembert, his defense is the perfect fit for us, and being canadian is also a bonus
and at his age and the arrival of JV, it might fit well in that JV will play under dalembert for the first couple years and then take over as the starter
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i would call it a flex cap. basically a hard cap + exceptions. eric smith thinks it'll be a 60mil flex cap which i agree with him on. this 45mil number is hard ball if the players don't accept the last 62mil flex cap offer.
I'm pretty sure it's only a 'flex cap' for teams that are currently above it.

They wont be allowed to go over the cap because they want to resign playing Y after this is put into place.
A hard cap will dramatically lower players salaries.
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imo the players have NO leverage this time around
it's like i tell my kids at Midget hockey (first eligible draft year)...at this point they are nothing more than a bag of meat with a hockey stick in their hands

players WILL accept an approx 33% pay cut...or they will sit at home and start looking for work at their local Walmart
Not so sure about that.... esp. with the way that teams in europe (and around the world) are throwing around money for talent.

Europe, Asia, South America.... even the middle east.... there are options out there.

If you're an NBA all-star and you get locked out what's to stop you from going overseas and grabbing a 2-yr $10M deal? Sure, it's a pittance compared to what you're used to making but it's still good coin and you're treated like a God playing against competition that isn't as tough.
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