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LX 06-21-2011 03:12 PM

CHISHOLM: Casey can be part of improving defensively
 
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In many ways Casey elicits memories of former Raptors coach Sam Mitchell, Toronto's last coach during a rebuilding phase. Like Mitchell, Casey is known as a tough-but-fair type that demands accountability in the locker room, and he won't ever be criticized for letting people off the hook defensively (*cough* Bargnani *cough*).

Unlike Mitchell, however, his long history as an assistant coach has given him a much better grasp of X's and O's and, one hopes, a more collaborative approach to working with others. It was his defensive acumen, though, that got him the job in Toronto, and some perspective should be added to the big picture before anyone calls this hiring a slam dunk in that regard.

Two years ago, when Casey was first brought on in Dallas, the team was only 17th in the NBA in defensive efficiency. Last year, after the club brought in Shawn Marion and, eventually, Brendan Haywood, Caron Butler and DeShawn Stevenson, the team finished the year 12th in defensive efficiency. This season, after acquiring Tyson Chandler, they cracked the top-ten and finished 7th overall. Notice a trend here?

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Casey could be the most creative defensive mind the NBA has ever seen for all we know, but without a roster of players that are willing and able to commit to and execute his system, all of Casey's strategic acumen will go to waste. If the Raptors continue to employ Jose Calderon as their first line of defence, Andrea Bargnani as their last line of defence and DeMar DeRozan on the best opposing wings, this team is going to lose. They are going to lose because they are going to get feasted on just like they have for the last two years under Jay Triano. That's why, while this hiring is nice and fine, it's only one small step towards correcting the real problems for the Raptors out on the court.

If Colangelo acts as though this hiring alone will be enough to meaningfully improve Toronto's defence, then they'll fail. By hiring Casey, he's laid down the expectation that improving the team's defence is priority number one, and now it's on him to give Casey what he needs to actually improve it. It's all well and good to hire a talented architect to re-build your house, but if you aren't going to provide them with the tools, materials and personnel that they'd need to build it, what's the point?

Hiring Casey is a perfectly respectable step in Toronto's rebuilding process, but it is going to take several subsequent steps with regards to re-imagining parts of this roster for it to matter. You're telling the fans you're serious about winning by hiring Casey? Fine. Now go show Casey you're serious by giving him some pieces that he can actually work with.

jeffb 06-21-2011 03:24 PM

Couldn't agree more.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! 06-21-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 550748)
Couldn't agree more.

+1

Superjudge 06-21-2011 04:12 PM

coach won't mean shit.

he aint' gonna ask um to do anything Triano didn't.

It's on the players.....

Triano was coaching Bargnani during the tenure that saw Colangelo protect him completely. Well it was time to protect his own ass, so Colangelo tossed Bargnani under the bus... right or wrong, thats a different conversation.

Fact is, Triano would have loved nothing more than to bench his ass. Bench all the guys who dogged it... he wasn't completely free to. Now that Colangelo has used toughness and a dedication to more effort as his convenient defence to help secure a few more years, the new coach has carte blanche in which to enforce what was not enforceable before.

So where is the emphasis now?
Directly on the players. Not the coach. It almost never is in this era of contracts and agents and marketing.

box92 06-21-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 550769)
coach won't mean shit.

he aint' gonna ask um to do anything Triano didn't.

It's on the players.....

Triano was coaching Bargnani during the tenure that saw Colangelo protect him completely. Well it was time to protect his own ass, so Colangelo tossed Bargnani under the bus... right or wrong, thats a different conversation.

Fact is, Triano would have loved nothing more than to bench his ass. Bench all the guys who dogged it... he wasn't completely free to. Now that Colangelo has used toughness and a dedication to more effort as his convenient defence to help secure a few more years, the new coach has carte blanche in which to enforce what was not enforceable before.

So where is the emphasis now?
Directly on the players. Not the coach. It almost never is in this era of contracts and agents and marketing.

OH no way, traino told you this??? Never knew you were this close to the organization.

myklue 06-21-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty! (Post 550752)
+1

+1

Dark Knight 06-21-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by myklue (Post 550778)
+1

+1

box92 06-21-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 550784)
+1

+1

just thought id join the party

ReRoaR 06-21-2011 06:08 PM

My Lord, the word 'acumen' has become popular.

LX 06-21-2011 07:56 PM

I don't buy the shit about Casey being afforded more of a chance to make Bargnani accountable. It's too late for that for one thing, and it's not a situation you want to put a new coach in right off the bat. Bargnani needs to go or they risk him being responsible for firing number three.

Admiral 06-21-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 550875)
I don't buy the shit about Casey being afforded more of a chance to make Bargnani accountable. It's too late for that for one thing, and it's not a situation you want to put a new coach in right off the bat. Bargnani needs to go or they risk him being responsible for firing number three.

bargnani won't be responsible for firing number 3, he'll either be traded this summer or he'll get a short leash to listen to the coach and if not he's gone
at this point BC is more committed to casey than he is bargnani

Ex2k 06-22-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral (Post 550944)
bargnani won't be responsible for firing number 3, he'll either be traded this summer or he'll get a short leash to listen to the coach and if not he's gone
at this point BC is more committed to casey than he is bargnani

+1

and @Superjudge

I more then one time recall (maybe 3 times max tho) Triano benching Bargs ass... this was all within a 2 month period I believe though

I recall 2 back 2 back games where he sat half the 3rd and half the 4th one game and a entire 4th quarter the next game for fucking up the same play.

Superjudge 06-22-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by box1992 (Post 550775)
OH no way, traino told you this??? Never knew you were this close to the organization.

Maybe closer than you think. Were not all students on this site my friend.

Just saying.

Barracuda 06-22-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by box1992 (Post 550775)
OH no way, traino told you this??? Never knew you were this close to the organization.

Yes, traino. Triano's less competent brother.

carp 06-22-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 550875)
I don't buy the shit about Casey being afforded more of a chance to make Bargnani accountable. It's too late for that for one thing, and it's not a situation you want to put a new coach in right off the bat. Bargnani needs to go or they risk him being responsible for firing number three.

hahaha... good one. Wait, Bargnani was responsible for Triano and Mitchell? Wow, even you can't believe that.


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