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jeffb 12-15-2011 08:19 AM

Charley Rosen: Gray, one of the worst FA signings
 
Hmmmm

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Aaron Gray – Toronto. Big, slow and strong, Gray’s natural niche is third-string center. His moves in the low post are robotic and his defense is unacceptable because of his limited lateral movement. Last season, Gray’s total points (129) were virtually matched by his combination of turnovers (32) and fouls (96). In signing Gray (along with Canadian-born Jamaal Magloire), the Raptors have demonstrated just how desperate they are to put a big body in the middle.
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Honourable mention:

Jamaal Magloire (Toronto) has nothing left. In any case, he’s always been a bully who folds when he himself is bullied.
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/ros...gnings-so-far/

DDUnreal 12-15-2011 08:25 AM

Well people needed to be brought back to earth a little overhyping the signings we've been doing.

Superjudge 12-15-2011 08:37 AM

Not really relevant, the guys brought in arent there for on the floor success.

jeffb 12-15-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 587403)
Not really relevant, the guys brought in arent there for on the floor success.

Which is reflected in their cheap ass one year contracts. Lol

Superjudge 12-15-2011 08:45 AM

totally. these guys are here for reasons.

Gray is here to provide the look of a more traditional big guy in the middle look, with hopes that VAL can be that guy when he comes. They need to assess whether or not Bargnani is the guy at 4, if not, they will trade him after this year. Same for the other 4's, it's audition time.

Magloire is for the fans, and for the room. They need to give Casey help turning the culture around, a coach cant do ti alone, players dont listen to coaches. Carter and Magloire will be huge for Casey, and you WILL see results.

Its all about down the road. Whoever is left after this year has to have the right mindset. Derozan HAS to learn to be tough, same with Davis, Bargs, Amir....etc.

People here, or in the media can say what they want, Rosen is merely talking about on the floor success, he knows whats going on otherwise.

Windex 12-15-2011 08:55 AM

these guys are getting minimum contracts and are just here to fill a roster. worst FA signing are for big money signings, not $1 mil/yr players

creative1mm 12-15-2011 09:10 AM

I swear.. some of these dudes are getting paid to talk negative about sports in Toronto

jeffb 12-15-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm (Post 587415)
I swear.. some of these dudes are getting paid to talk negative about sports in Toronto

Oh come on.....that's just your insecurities bubbling to the surface. PM LX he'll explain it to you. Lol

creative1mm 12-15-2011 09:16 AM

it's ok.. I'm good now lol

gdaytday 12-15-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 587413)
these guys are getting minimum contracts and are just here to fill a roster. worst FA signing are for big money signings, not $1 mil/yr players

This is accurate.

GrannyFro 12-15-2011 10:38 AM

i won't say he's the worst signing but i will say that he and bargnani on the floor together is going to make for one slow(gray), dumb(bargnani), and lazy frontcourt.

bargnani has no awareness and gives no effort, now we'll make him guard an more active position and put an even slower player in at center. Doesn't have me excited but whatever, nothing porn can't offset

GrannyFro 12-15-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 587413)
these guys are getting minimum contracts and are just here to fill a roster. worst FA signing are for big money signings, not $1 mil/yr players

very true. the only thing that really irks me about the signing is it seems as if he's going to play a big role. Casey and colangelo are licking their chops when they're about to receive a poo platter

RAPMAN 12-15-2011 10:44 AM

This guy is clearly a Toronto hater. He always has something negative to say about Toronto (Hello Bill Simmons). First of all. Gray and Magloire were signed for one-year deals for minimum amounts. Why doesn't he attack the bigger free agents who are vastly overpaid (Nene, Deandre Jordan). Its like critizing a company for the mailboy who makes minimum wage rather than the senior executive who got a 100% increase in salary.

powerfulpanda 12-15-2011 10:52 AM

great....this will just be another excuse for bargnani supporters

carp 12-15-2011 10:59 AM

Awful signings..... now the bargnani supporters are going to have to listen to Torrap and his bold claims that AB was never given enough help and that's why he demanded a trade!

As an aside, it's nice to finally have some legitimate size on this team..... Gray played well in the playoffs, is young, wanting to be here.... let's just whine that he isn't good enough but is now our starting C!

GrannyFro 12-15-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 587443)
Awful signings..... now the bargnani supporters are going to have to listen to Torrap and his bold claims that AB was never given enough help and that's why he demanded a trade!

As an aside, it's nice to finally have some legitimate size on this team..... Gray played well in the playoffs, is young, wanting to be here.... let's just whine that he isn't good enough but is now our starting C!

oh i hope he's the starting c, cause nothing will expose bargnani more

2 slow footed goofs is better than one

carp 12-15-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GrannyFro (Post 587444)
oh i hope he's the starting c, cause nothing will expose bargnani more

2 slow footed goofs is better than one

hahaha... I love your antagonistic approach, it's beyond reproach! :cookie:

I think having an actual 7 footer beside him will help, there is something to be said for taking up space in the paint..... if only we had perimeter defenders.... in due time I suppose!

LKeet6 12-15-2011 11:35 AM

in terms of value gray is a very good signing. Nene will put up bigger numbers than gray and help his team more but will he be 10x better than gray? i don't think so.

Superjudge 12-15-2011 01:11 PM

you don't have to be fast to play good defence in the paint.

FF sakes

Don Vito 12-15-2011 01:17 PM

Haters gonna hate.


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