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Old 02-04-2012, 07:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Watching Barnes now. The guy can shoot and defend!
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
and that's the bottom line, cause JV said so!!!

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Yeah he played okay, did a really good job of taking the ball inside, took the majority of his shots from there. Came through in the crunch, hit two threes around the 4 or 5 minute mark, and hit a nice turn around jumper with some pretty good D on him with just over a minute too go.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
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recent drafts have not been kind to sf/pf combos

I think it would be very stupid of us to focus on an a position this draft, we just need to get the best player because what we need more than anything is talent. It's not like we're a SF away from being a good team ...
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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recent drafts have not been kind to sf/pf combos

I think it would be very stupid of us to focus on an a position this draft, we just need to get the best player because what we need more than anything is talent. It's not like we're a SF away from being a good team ...
I agree, as someone said before: talent can be traded
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I agree, as someone said before: talent can be traded
It doesn't really work like that with most picks. If the pick is a sure fire all star, then maybe, but at the position we'll be picking that probably won't be the case.

Once you've got a guy in your system he gets devalued if you can't give him minutes to develop and show what kind of player he is. Every day that goes by without him developing his value goes down.

You're better off trading the pick, it's more valuable than trading the player (since the receiving team gets whatever player they want, instead of the guy that you picked after he's been neglected for a few months, or however long it takes to get the deal done).
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Also, if the Raptors can't get a good deal done for the pick, then I think it makes a world of sense to draft Perry Jones or Terrence Jones and see if they can guard NBA SFs.

At least they'll be getting playing time and developing, even if they are playing a little out of position. And they'll really be playing SF only on defence, since Bargs plays offence like a SF. Bargs sets up in the high post and on the perimeter unless he has a mismatch in the post. So, that leaves some room down low for a SF who can play there.

If they turn out to be good PFs but not so good SFs, then they've still got trade value, because other teams have seen a lot of them.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Personally, I like Terrence Jones' all around game, he's good at a lot, he could be something like a more talented James Johnson, but Perry Jones could turn out to be a very gifted scorer/rebounder in the NBA.

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Old 02-04-2012, 11:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think you misunderstood it, as ''moremilk'' said we should grab a best player possible without focusing on the position. So i think if we have a really good player we shouldn't have problem trading him for SF in the future
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:46 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think you misunderstood it, as ''moremilk'' said we should grab a best player possible without focusing on the position. So i think if we have a really good player we shouldn't have problem trading him for SF in the future
It's not like players are just good or bad inherently, a lot of it has to do with the situation they're in, and the role they play, the exposure they get in the media, and how they grow as players and people over time.

A bad team can completely ruin a rookie's career, and on the other hand a good team can make a rookie a better player. It's not like these good teams (Spurs, Jazz for example) are just really lucky at drafting. They've got good coaches and veterans that can really teach their picks how to play the game, and they learn how to win from a winning team.

I think that being on the Raptors next year will be a bad situation for a rookie PF/C (unless you're Jonas Valanciunas). Amir, Ed, Bargs and probably Linas will all want minutes at PF.

So, there's another option - draft a PF/C and trade at least one of Ed/Amir/Linas/Bargs. But, that's a plan that relies on another team being willing to give good value for one of those guys, which may not be the case.

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