Chad Ford: Bulls/Raps could make a deal

jeffb · 06-13-2012, 03:59 PM

Don't like this idea. Would any of you do this?

Isn't he about to have surgery? And he's owed 27.6Mil over the next 2yrs.

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Gabe (Naperville)

There are rumblings from several local reporters that the Bulls may be looking to move into the Top 10. Have you heard anything to that extent?
Chad Ford (1:35 PM)

Only way I could really see that happening is if the Raptors settled for Luol Deng there. A deal of Deng and No. 29 for Calderon and No. 8 might work for both sides.

LOG · 06-13-2012, 04:04 PM

DonMughal · 06-13-2012, 04:05 PM

He's paid a lot of money but he's a hell of a player. 2 years of that salary isn't horrible. And atleast he's a proven player.

carp · 06-13-2012, 04:08 PM

It's not terrible but not great. I like Deng but he's not as good as the others we've been discussing. I'd also like it more if we could flip one of our many SF-PF players.

Alex · 06-13-2012, 04:15 PM

He's an awesome player. Not a super star but a good piece to the puzzle. He would fit in quite nice. Would BC make that trade with the uncertainty at PG? We would have to have another Pg coming in.

DrFunk3385 · 06-13-2012, 04:16 PM

Oh F off. Are we going to keep making the same mistakes? I know Deng is not Jermaine O'Neal - but the similarities are there. Good, solid vet - but injury prone and on the backslide. Sure he had a great year last year, but I'd rather have taken a chance on Hibbert (would have paid off), and would rather take a chance on Lillard/Waiters/Lamb/etc.

And so we get Deng. Then what? We have a good third option veteran on a team bound for the lottery again (Unless JV comes in as the second coming of Christ). Snore. Who cares. Waste of cap space.

b55bgc · 06-13-2012, 04:22 PM

I am not a fan of this deal as well. I am sure there are better options out there. Especially when we are trading a very solid point guard who came back from almost getting traded and gave us two great years of playing.

LilRomeo · 06-13-2012, 04:23 PM

This is only a made up scenario by this Chad Ford guy. No need to take this ish seriously.

DonMughal · 06-13-2012, 04:25 PM

A lot of people forget that he was an all-star this year. As was Iggy. And Gay WASN'T.

jeffb · 06-13-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrFunk3385

Oh F off. Are we going to keep making the same mistakes? I know Deng is not Jermaine O'Neal - but the similarities are there. Good, solid vet - but injury prone and on the backslide. Sure he had a great year last year, but I'd rather have taken a chance on Hibbert (would have paid off), and would rather take a chance on Lillard/Waiters/Lamb/etc.

And so we get Deng. Then what? We have a good third option veteran on a team bound for the lottery again (Unless JV comes in as the second coming of Christ). Snore. Who cares. Waste of cap space.

What capspace? The salaries, while not identical are pretty close. We'd still have about 9Mil in capspace and could still use our amnesty placing us probably in the 13-14Mil in capspace range to go after Dragic or possibily Nash with.

Dragic
Derozan
Deng
Bargs
Valanciunas

That is a better balanced starting 5 on both ends of the floor. Would it be my first choice, no. But is it my least favourite choice, certainly not.

jeffb · 06-13-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by b55bgc

I am not a fan of this deal as well. I am sure there are better options out there. Especially when we are trading a very solid point guard who came back from almost getting traded and gave us two great years of playing.

Two great years?

10gizzle · 06-13-2012, 04:55 PM

Love Deng.

Wouldn't make the deal though.

Superjudge · 06-13-2012, 05:00 PM

Why the FUCK do I keep seeing the name Dragic in all these ridiculous scenario's you guys lay out. FFsakes, he's not that good.

Honestly man, yo uguys seem to wanna make deals for the fuck of it.

Don Vito · 06-13-2012, 05:00 PM

A pick for deng? Hell no.

jeffb · 06-13-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

Why the FUCK do I keep seeing the name Dragic in all these ridiculous scenario's you guys lay out. FFsakes, he's not that good.

Honestly man, yo uguys seem to wanna make deals for the fuck of it.

You're a Jose fan. Lol

TORaptor4Ever · 06-13-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

You're a Jose fan. Lol

Jose's proven a heck of a lot more than Dragic.... just saying.

jeffb · 06-13-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever

Jose's proven a heck of a lot more than Dragic.... just saying.

Heck of a lot? Lol

This place is going looney.

carp · 06-13-2012, 05:25 PM

I think the diff between the 8th and 29th is just a bit too much.... I'd rather do Ed and Jose and exclude both picks but obviously Chitown isn't needing Taj point negative 0h!

TORaptor4Ever · 06-13-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Heck of a lot? Lol

This place is going looney.

Uhhhh.... in 4 out of the last 5 seasons he's avgd close to 9 assists/gm and been at (or near) the top of the league in asst/TO ratio.

You've got a sample size of nearly 300 games as a starter compared to 36 for Dragic.

Come back to earth Jeff... you may not care for Jose's style of play, but let's no get carried away here.

DocHoliday99 · 06-13-2012, 05:36 PM

What is Ford thinking? The Raps are going to give cap AND a lottery pick for a broken down wing? Ludicrous - getting paid by the Bulls on the sly.

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06-13-2012, 04:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
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DonMughal is the boss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mississauga Posts: 2,968 Representing:	He's paid a lot of money but he's a hell of a player. 2 years of that salary isn't horrible. And atleast he's a proven player.

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carp is the rebirth of thick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,626 Representing:	It's not terrible but not great. I like Deng but he's not as good as the others we've been discussing. I'd also like it more if we could flip one of our many SF-PF players.

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Alex is grabbin boards, droppin dimes, and lightin them up Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,868 Representing:	He's an awesome player. Not a super star but a good piece to the puzzle. He would fit in quite nice. Would BC make that trade with the uncertainty at PG? We would have to have another Pg coming in.

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DrFunk3385 is turrible Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21 Representing:	Oh F off. Are we going to keep making the same mistakes? I know Deng is not Jermaine O'Neal - but the similarities are there. Good, solid vet - but injury prone and on the backslide. Sure he had a great year last year, but I'd rather have taken a chance on Hibbert (would have paid off), and would rather take a chance on Lillard/Waiters/Lamb/etc. And so we get Deng. Then what? We have a good third option veteran on a team bound for the lottery again (Unless JV comes in as the second coming of Christ). Snore. Who cares. Waste of cap space.

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b55bgc is Mean Muggin with his son Swollen Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Rock AKA Newfoundland Posts: 1,400 Representing:	I am not a fan of this deal as well. I am sure there are better options out there. Especially when we are trading a very solid point guard who came back from almost getting traded and gave us two great years of playing.

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LilRomeo is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 616 Representing:	This is only a made up scenario by this Chad Ford guy. No need to take this ish seriously.

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10gizzle is born like this, into this. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,887 Representing:	Love Deng. Wouldn't make the deal though.

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Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,389 Representing:	Why the FUCK do I keep seeing the name Dragic in all these ridiculous scenario's you guys lay out. FFsakes, he's not that good. Honestly man, yo uguys seem to wanna make deals for the fuck of it.

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Don Vito is raptor jesus Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,585 Representing:	A pick for deng? Hell no.

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carp is the rebirth of thick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,626 Representing:	I think the diff between the 8th and 29th is just a bit too much.... I'd rather do Ed and Jose and exclude both picks but obviously Chitown isn't needing Taj point negative 0h!

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DocHoliday99 is still thinking Bargs will be here 2 more years, 1more to go. Sometimes it's not ok to be right. Membres supérieurs Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 2,963 Representing:	What is Ford thinking? The Raps are going to give cap AND a lottery pick for a broken down wing? Ludicrous - getting paid by the Bulls on the sly.