Chad Ford: Biggest busts of the decade
Old 12-29-2009, 09:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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8. Rafael Araujo, Toronto Raptors, No. 8 overall in 2004
Newly minted Raptors GM Rob Babcock didn't take long to screw up the Raptors. The Raptors had just landed Chris Bosh in the 2003 draft and had been playing him at center. Bosh wanted to move to the four so Babcock began scouring the draft for a center.

The problem was, there weren't any great centers other than Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor in the 2004 draft. Instead of taking the best player available (i.e. Luol Deng or Andre Iguodala) or taking a risk on a young, athletic big like Andris Biedrins, Babcock selected Araujo, a 24-year-old Brazilian who had put up good numbers at BYU. Most scouts had him ranked somewhere between the mid- to late-first round on the draft boards. The Raptors reached and then watched Araujo flounder for two years before sending him in a trade to the Jazz. Araujo played just 28 games in his third season before falling out of the league.

1. Darko Milicic, Detroit Pistons, No. 2 overall in 2003
2. Kwame Brown, Washington Wizards, No. 1 overall in 2001
3. Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Denver Nuggets, No. 5 overall in 2002
4. Adam Morrison, Charlotte Bobcats, No. 3 overall in 2006 -- over Brandon Roy
5a. Marvin Williams, Atlanta Hawks, No. 2 overall in 2005 -- over Chris Paul
5b. Shelden Williams, Atlanta Hawks, No. 5 overall in 2006 -- over Rajon Rondo
6. Yaroslav Korolev, Los Angeles Clippers, No. 12 overall in 2005
7. Fran Vasquez, Orlando Magic, No. 11 overall in 2005
8. Rafael Araujo, Toronto Raptors, No. 8 overall in 2004
9.Greg Oden over Kevin Durant
10.Jordan Hill over Brandon Jennings


NBA draft blog: Darko Milicic, Greg Oden rank among worst draft picks of the decade - ESPN
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Number ten has me a bit confused, it's only been 30 games into the final season of the decade and part of it will be played in the new one. Ford is making quite the stretch with that one. I guess he just wanted to implement some current occurances to the mix.

On another note, Araujo still makes me sick to this day. Thanks to Babcock this guy is going to be a millionaire for life, unless he's incredibly careless.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You can't mention draft mistakes with the Raptors without mentioning Bargnani. This was taken today from the Chad Ford chat board talking about draft busts:

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Doesn't Bargnani belong among your Top 10 draft busts? They took him ahead of Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay and Rondo, all superior players.

Chad Ford (1:36 PM)


True ... but at least he's a legitimate NBA player. Most of the guys on the list, with the exception of Marvin Williams, did absolutely nothing.


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Old 12-29-2009, 10:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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We could have been a decent young team like OKC or POR had we not wasted that pick, the CV pick, and the Joey Graham pick (who we lost for nothing).
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Number ten has me a bit confused, it's only been 30 games into the final season of the decade and part of it will be played in the new one. Ford is making quite the stretch with that one. I guess he just wanted to implement some current occurances to the mix.
Yeah, i wondered too why he picked Hill/Knicks ahead of Minnesota who picked two PG including one they knew would likely bolt, ahead of Jennings. Or for that matter us for picking Derozan ahead of Jennings, since we're usually the butt of these types of lists.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Babcock scoured the draft looking for a centre? He took the job two weeks before the draft...Jack McCloskey was the one who essentially made this pick. As the architect of the Bad Boys, he thought Haffa would be the next Laimbeer. And, Deng was gone at seven, so get your facts straight.
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Babcock scoured the draft looking for a centre? He took the job two weeks before the draft...Jack McCloskey was the one who essentially made this pick. As the architect of the Bad Boys, he thought Haffa would be the next Laimbeer. And, Deng was gone at seven, so get your facts straight.
All true....I also remember Babcock said that he had Igoudala ranked higher than Hoffa. However, you are the General Manager, you don't let other people make your decisions. Do you think Jerry West or RC Buford would listen to McCloskey. Even the new General Manager like Sam Presti (OKC) built his team with his own vision trading the star player like Ray Allen for Jeff Green, letting Rashard Lewis walk, and building the team's core players like Durant, Westbrook, and Harden through the draft. Babcock had the title of General Manager, not McCloskey, he should have followed his own player rankings. There are leaders and followers. Babcock was a follower:

"I had two guys ranked ahead of him -- (Andre) Iguodala and Jameer Nelson," said Babcock, who still thinks Araujo can become an effective NBA player."

RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Babcock Says He Had Iguodala And Nelson Ranked Ahead Of Hoffa
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All true....I also remember Babcock said that he had Igoudala ranked higher than Hoffa. However, you are the General Manager, you don't let other people make your decisions. Do you think Jerry West or RC Buford would listen to McCloskey. Even the new General Manager like Sam Presti (OKC) built his team with his own vision trading the star player like Ray Allen for Jeff Green, letting Rashard Lewis walk, and building the team's core players like Durant, Westbrook, and Harden through the draft. Babcock had the title of General Manager, not McCloskey, he should have followed his own player rankings. There are leaders and followers. Babcock was a follower:

"I had two guys ranked ahead of him -- (Andre) Iguodala and Jameer Nelson," said Babcock, who still thinks Araujo can become an effective NBA player."

RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Babcock Says He Had Iguodala And Nelson Ranked Ahead Of Hoffa
Well, McCloskey is an overbearing old SOB and the only reason Babcock got hired. I suspect he was put in a really bad postion right from the start and forced to not bite the hand that just fed him.
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Where is the Candy man Michael Olowakandi who was selected #1? and that blonde center/PF guy who was selected #1 too (or 2??) ? (I can't even remember his name, he played for NJ and Dallas and used to jack up threes)

..and the big dog Glen Robinson who was selected #1 too...

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Old 12-30-2009, 02:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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How da hell is Bargnani not in this.. wtf were we thinking picking this guy
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How da hell is Bargnani not in this.. wtf were we thinking picking this guy
how do you figure Bargnani is a bust?
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I remember making fun of Araujo during March Madness a few months before he was drafted...I never thought I'd see his face or even hear his name again.
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How da hell is Bargnani not in this.. wtf were we thinking picking this guy
Bargnani's all world compared to most of these guys..

Darko is a real shame...The guy was a remarkably dynamic prospect. So much so, you can't really blame the Pistons for taking a chance on him IMO.
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Number ten has me a bit confused, it's only been 30 games into the final season of the decade and part of it will be played in the new one. Ford is making quite the stretch with that one. I guess he just wanted to implement some current occurances to the mix.

On another note, Araujo still makes me sick to this day. Thanks to Babcock this guy is going to be a millionaire for life, unless he's incredibly careless.
Buddy.

Hoffa was a bad pick, but unless you're too young to remember, you should know that the circumstances under which he was chosen were pretty clear. Toronto was desperate for a big guy, a solid, strong, mean big guy. He was touted as that.

They wearnt gonna grab Igudala with Carter there.

Saying you hate Hoffa is terrible. Almost all accounts say he was a very good guy, family guy, quiet, and incredibly hard worker. No reason to hate him because he didn't pan out as a good big in the NBA. He's

He isn't even a bust, he wasn't supposed to be good, just dependable, big, and tough. 2/3 isn't enough to keep role players in the league.
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Yeah it's true. Aruajo wasn't a bust per se, but he wasn't just a bad pick. He was a HORRIBLE pick.
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hahaha. ya.

It was fun having a 100% legit tough guy around though.
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This list sucks.

I guess it depends on your definition of "bust".

Is "bust" just a horrible pick???

Kwame was just an athlete who didn't even really appear to enjoy basketball, but the Wizards still picked him.

Yet he became a pretty good defender and rebounder and was a decent contributor to some pretty good teams. He's had a long career and almost always been in the rotation.

Marvin Williams has been a solid contributor his whole career, he got drafted by a team with two young starts in Johnson and Smith. Was he supposed to come on that team and take over. He doesn't impose his will on the game like you would expect a number 1 pick to, but he's pretty solid.

Oden was going to be awesome if it wasn't for injuries.
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Gosh, Araujo is the EPITOME of why teams should never draft strictly for position.
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Haffa was one of the worst lottery picks of all time. Bust personified.

With that said, the author should have done his homework and realized that Deng was picked already - that option was off the table.

Not only was Deng selected, but few people remember that he was actually Phoenix's pick, but Phoenix's cheap owner, Robert Sarver, sold the pick for around $1-2 million to Chicago. The team subsequently had depth problems and could have maybe been a championship team if they didn't sell their pick several years in a row. What a fucking idiot!
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