CBC.ca: Making the case for Colangelo
Old 01-25-2011, 08:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can you attack Colangelo's drafting with the Raps?

Not really. His first pick in 2006, Andrea Bargnani, actually stands the test of time. While three years ago it was easy to say Brandon Roy was the true number one in that draft, injuries are now decimating his career. That leaves LaMarcus Aldridge (poor man's Bosh) and Rudy Gay as the only decent options from the top ten of that draft that Colangelo didn't take(the best player today from the '06 draft, Rajon Rondo, was picked 21stand therefore passed over by 19 other GMs).

In 2007, Toronto didn't have a pick because of the long-forgotten Lamond Murray for Yogi Stewart trade under Glen Grunwald. The 2008 draft falls under "mistake" because of it's tie-in with the aforementioned O'Neal/Ford blunder. Roy Hibbert was chosen by the Raps and flipped to Indiana for their second rounder, Nathan Jawai.

DeMar DeRozan in 2009? Seems to be panning out. It's too early to make the call on Ed Davis this year.

What has to be taken into consideration when looking at the Raptors' draft deficiencies over the years is their lack of second-round picks, which goes back to before Colangelo. Through various trade throw-ins Toronto has washed their hands of numerous number two selections, a place where other teams have mined players like Carl Landry, DeAndre Jordan, Glen Davis and Gilbert Arenas.

One criticism thrown at Colangelo is the calibre of players he's used the mid-level exception on. But people tend to forget that he's also deft at trading bad players and bad contracts for something generally better. He somehow traded Rafael Araujo for two living, breathing human beings, one of whom in Kris Humphries became a valuable contributor to a playoff squad.
He got Reggie Evans for Jason Kapono, a deal that would be an absolute steal if Evans hadn't been hurt most of the past year. Getting Leandro Barbosa for Turkoglu managed to salvage some correction to Colangelo's biggest mistake, even if Barbosa is simply a modern-day Mike James - a scoring guard on a bad team.

As for Colangelo's signings, Jorge Garbajosa and Anthony Parker seemed to work at the time. Jarrett Jack filled a need and was intended to placate Bosh. Calderon's contract was questionable, but bear in mind he almost managed to trade it for Tyson Chandler. You can debate whether Amir Johnson is worth the money he was signed to last summer, but his contract is actually quite reasonable by NBA standards.
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But Raptors fans, like people in general, tend to have woefully short memories. Does anyone recall the guy they had at GM before? Rob Babcock once explained his first-round selection of Araujo as a result of the fact that he simply hadn't scouted higher-ranked players in the 2004 draft. Think about that for a second.

Colangelo's tenure has been marked by two events: The Bosh saga and the failed O'Neal/Turkoglu experiment. In the NBA, things like that derail teams. Star players wanting to play in Toronto is a subject for an entirely different column (I'll get to that another time).

Yes, Colangelo should get an extension. And he probably will, because MLSE likes him. Give him the chance to try and finish rebuilding. I don't see a ton of comparable options out there to replace him, and quite frankly I wouldn't trust MLSE to find them anyway.

Making the case for Colangelo - John Chick
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i love how he disses MLSE at the end
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They should definitely bring Colangelo back.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Bring BC back. I don't think there is a better candidate avaliable.

He's experienced, and can pull off some amazing trades.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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BC should be brought back, i dont want them pulling finding another random guy like Babcock who didnt know what he was doing
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If there were better options that would be available, I'd say get rid of em, but I thought about it, and from what I can think of, theres nothing close.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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We should keep him, let him finish what he started...his rebuilding of the Raps
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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well the organisation loved building around bosh, thats why they brought BC in, to help keep Bosh a Raptor that failed because buildng around Bosh was always a bad idea, MLSE just didn't realize that and same with a ton of raptor fans including myself

I want to see what BC can do without Bosh or Nash in PHX, sign him to 3 or 4 year extention, lets see it through
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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We will see where this franchise is in 3-4 years. We have a lot of nice prospects and young players along to go with a high draft pick this season and maybe the next and some money to spend in the next couple offseasons. Then we can really blame him if his project doesn't work out.
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I like Bryan because he is aggressive.. he makes off seasons fun..
he pulls off some great trades, and when ever a move goes bad he fixes it up very fast,
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I agree with the article expect the drafting of bargnani....
no way is aldridge a poor man's chris Bosh NO WAY
i actually really like aldridge coming out of college and really wanted the raps to make him our number 1 pick at the time, but since we already had Bosh i could live with that
He says looking back Bargnani would still be the logical number 1 choice for us and i have to disagree
imagine us having rudy gay right now!!
we are desperate for a SF right now and gay is more than a solid one
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I agree with the article expect the drafting of bargnani....
no way is aldridge a poor man's chris Bosh NO WAY
i actually really like aldridge coming out of college and really wanted the raps to make him our number 1 pick at the time, but since we already had Bosh i could live with that
He says looking back Bargnani would still be the logical number 1 choice for us and i have to disagree
imagine us having rudy gay right now!!
we are desperate for a SF right now and gay is more than a solid one
Aldridge IS a poor man's Bosh. As for Rudy Gay, 7 teams passed on him. He wasn't a consensus top 3 pick. I have absolutely no problem with him drafting Bargnani, especially when you consider the circumstances back then. If we Drafted Gay back then most would have ripped us a new asshole.
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Aldridge IS a poor man's Bosh. As for Rudy Gay, 7 teams passed on him. He wasn't a consensus top 3 pick. I have absolutely no problem with him drafting Bargnani, especially when you consider the circumstances back then. If we Drafted Gay back then most would have ripped us a new asshole.
I disagree with you on Aldridge but we're entitled to our own opinions and i won't get into that.
with the rudy gay thing, yes Bargnani was a reasonable number 1 pick AT THE TIME, but i was only stating how in the article he mentions how in hindsight it would STILL be logical to take bargnani. and thats what i disagree with! not that we should have taken gay back then in the 06 draft.
its not an attack on BC's drafting but a disagreement with one point of the article

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Old 01-26-2011, 12:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The draft wasn't the priority back in those years. BC wanted to bring solids players to make this team a contender around Bosh.
And it works for the 2006-2007 season. TJ Ford-AP-Garbo-Moon-Kapono (lol).
The main thing that I can't understand is "the Sam Mitchell firing"... After 17 Games and a 8-9records? WTF?
With injury problems and new additions, adaptation of new players... That's THE bad move makes by Colangelo IMO.
Triano wasn't fired during last season with a supposed top 4-5 team faillure. With the same sentence "there is 9 new players on the roster blablabla" That's some incoherences... (Yeah I know during last season BC tries to keep Bosh, so the moves where difficult to make...) but come on...
For Bargnani, he was the best thing available. You can't pass on a 7 footer with guard skills. The draft is all about potential and Bargnani was the best potential. A 7 footer with guard skills, you don't pass on that... The talented bigs are such a rare thing!
Rondo is the best player out of this draft. Why? 'Cause he works hard and he has a winning mentality (and he also has 4 HOFamers around him lol).
So I don't blame Colangelo for this choice.
I blame Colangelo for being impatient.
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