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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 04-25-2014 11:51 PM

Casey 'will' get extended.
 
http://www.nba.com/media/042214-2013...Year-Votes.pdf

Spurs' Gregg Popovich named 2013-14 Coach of the Year | NBA.com

Just thinking about COTY voting. Pretty safe to say the Raptors extend Casey. I don't see after this season how they don't with the later season record we had, succes we had and after he gets 5th in voting. Who else would be available that would be better? I think its prety much a lock no matter what happens in the playoffs that he gets re-upped.

bjjs 04-26-2014 12:07 AM

It all depends who is available. I'm meh on Casey. He still confuses me at times. If JVG was loving the idea of coaching Toronto, I would drop Casey in a second.

I just don't understand how you can sit your best player to end the second half when he only has one foul. It makes absolutely no sense. None at all. It's a unique move, historically, that I can't understand.

Alex 04-26-2014 12:08 AM

Misleading title.

bjjs 04-26-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 890885)
Misleading title.

Agreed - misleading titles should result in a one day ban.

Alex 04-26-2014 12:10 AM

Off with his head. http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/un...03/joffrey.jpg

Gurk 04-26-2014 12:12 AM

I seriously hope not, not after tonight's atrocious showing

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 04-26-2014 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bjjs (Post 890886)
Agreed - misleading titles should result in a one day ban.

If grammatical errors were ban worthy you would get one every day!

R0b3rt 04-26-2014 11:46 AM

he hasn't done too bad statistically as a Raptors head coach compared to our past ones.

List of Toronto Raptors head coaches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

moremilk 04-26-2014 12:18 PM

after the first games of the playoffs, the following coaches should be fired:

popovic, mchale, casey, vogel, thibs, kidd and brooks

after the next few days, I expect most of the rest to join the list above :)

moremilk 04-26-2014 12:22 PM

seriously though, I never understood why people are so down on casey. He may not be the greatest coach in the league, but it feels like we don't even give him a chance at times. All coaches make mistakes, especially early in their career. You think popovic was flawless in his first few seasons (or now for that matter)?

There's all this talk about players not having playoff experience, how about coaches? They improve from season to season just like players do. Does casey have what it takes to become a great coach one day, that's the proper question to ask.

Also, what is the alternative, do we have a chance of attracting a proven great coach? Can we snatch carlisle or pop? Not likely.

pzabby 04-26-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 890969)
seriously though, I never understood why people are so down on casey. He may not be the greatest coach in the league, but it feels like we don't even give him a chance at times. All coaches make mistakes, especially early in their career. You think popovic was flawless in his first few seasons (or now for that matter)?

There's all this talk about players not having playoff experience, how about coaches? They improve from season to season just like players do. Does casey have what it takes to become a great coach one day, that's the proper question to ask.

Also, what is the alternative, do we have a chance of attracting a proven great coach? Can we snatch carlisle or pop? Not likely.

lvg? svg? and some more that don't have a gig at the moment. I'm pretty sure we'll talk to them before firing casey? Or is that not allowed?

The Diamond Scorpion 04-26-2014 01:52 PM

If I'm not mistaking I think we have a team option for Casey. If that is the case I would rather just pick up the option and reward him for this season. After that management can decided if they want to give him a extension, but to me, just because we had 1 good season under him shouldn't mean an automatic extension. Also very misleading title, but not a big deal.

jeffb 04-26-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Diamond Scorpion (Post 890993)
If I'm not mistaking I think we have a team option for Casey. If that is the case I would rather just pick up the option and reward him for this. After that management can decided if they want to give him a extension, but to me, just because we had 1 good season under him shouldn't mean an automatic extension. Also very misleading title, but not a big deal.

No team option. This is the third year of a three year contract.

His next deal should be two years plus a team option.

moremilk 04-26-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 890972)
lvg? svg? and some more that don't have a gig at the moment. I'm pretty sure we'll talk to them before firing casey? Or is that not allowed?

they were both pretty adamant they don't want to coach again
and, while they're both excellent coaches, what did they really accomplish that makes them a clearly superior choice?

There's something to say for stability, and casey deserves his time with this group to see where he can take us. Coaches are the easiest thing to change anyway, they don't count against the cap so it's not an issue to fire one and hire another if the proper opportunity arises.

The Diamond Scorpion 04-26-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 890994)
No team option. This is the third year of a three year contract.

His next deal should be two years plus a team option.

Thanks for clarifying that. I could live with the 2yr + team option, anything more though is a bit of a stretch.

fancylad 04-26-2014 04:13 PM

he should absolutely get extended. He is a good coach and in no way should be judged by this playoff series. It's not his fault he's up against a superior team.

pzabby 04-26-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fancylad (Post 891037)
he should absolutely get extended. He is a good coach and in no way should be judged by this playoff series. It's not his fault he's up against a superior team.

You should clarify your definition of superior. On talent alone? No they're not superior. Maybe equal. But that's even a stretch. Do they have superior experience? Yes. Hence why they took game 1. Simple as that. Anything else is false

fancylad 04-26-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 891039)
You should clarify your definition of superior. On talent alone? No they're not superior. Maybe equal. But that's even a stretch. Do they have superior experience? Yes. Hence why they took game 1. Simple as that. Anything else is false

Superior in the sense that they have better and more proven players and are a better team. Like i have been saying since the regular season i don't think the raptors have the ability, talent, experience, 'clutch-ness' (so all of the above to your list) to beat the nets. I know it's the unpopular opinion (bring on the thumbs downs!) but it's one that i feel pretty strongly about. I would be shocked if the raptors ended up taking this series to 7 games never mind winning it.

Back to the topic at hand, Casey has done a great job. With all that talk about a culture change, i think he's actually done a lot to make it happen. They have done a 180 from their soft, no rebounding, no defense ways and i think a lot of that is because of Casey.

deaner 04-26-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fancylad (Post 891037)
he should absolutely get extended. He is a good coach and in no way should be judged by this playoff series. It's not his fault he's up against a superior team.

Really?

You don't remember how he let Rudy chuck?

You don't watch his rotations?

You don't wonder why he didn't prepare his team for the playoffs but playing with pace, giving Landry fields SOME minutes in the regular season...

Are you happy with ONE inbound execution this season or post season?

Are you convinced the addition of Nurse and Bayno have no influence on this teams success and it's all Casey's growth over last year?

He brags about having won the big game, I see nothing from him that suggests he can coach at that level. He's a treadmill coach in my opinion. The team will work hard but not smart. There must be some level of intelligence going forward for the raps to be successful.

fancylad 04-26-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deaner (Post 891047)
Really?

You don't remember how he let Rudy chuck?

You don't watch his rotations?

You don't wonder why he didn't prepare his team for the playoffs but playing with pace, giving Landry fields SOME minutes in the regular season...

Are you happy with ONE inbound execution this season or post season?

Are you convinced the addition of Nurse and Bayno have no influence on this teams success and it's all Casey's growth over last year?

He brags about having won the big game, I see nothing from him that suggests he can coach at that level. He's a treadmill coach in my opinion. The team will work hard but not smart. There must be some level of intelligence going forward for the raps to be successful.

re. Gay: The team was showcasing him. It's hard to trade a player who is glued to the bench. Let's not forget at that stage we were just as much about the tank as we were to 'go for it'.

and yes i am happy with a lot of the coaching decisions that we have seen be it certain plays, exploiting certain matchups, etc.

And no i don't think the assistants have had a biigger influence than Casey. It's a group effort and you are making it out like the assistants are the brains behind the operation. please.

And no i didn't ever notice Casey to brag about anything. He seems like a pretty humble guy and if anything acknowledges the team has a long way to go.


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