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Old 04-11-2012, 03:31 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I like Casey.
I liked Triano.
I liked Mitchell.

It aint the coaching, not all of it at least.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:01 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I like Casey.
I liked Triano.
I liked Mitchell.

It aint the coaching, not all of it at least.
A lot of it is talent too but it was easy to see IMO that Triano and Mitchell sucked.

Did you like Kevin Oneill?
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:07 PM   #83 (permalink)
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A lot of it is talent too but it was easy to see IMO that Triano and Mitchell sucked.

Did you like Kevin Oneill?
For a rookie coach Mitchell wasn't bad imo.

Mitchell>>>>>>Triano
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:12 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Had one post deleeted so I'll try again.... this is the dumbest idea/thread this year.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:49 AM   #87 (permalink)
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For a rookie coach Mitchell wasn't bad imo.

Mitchell>>>>>>Triano
6 of one... half dozen of the other.

They were two opposite sides of the same coin. Neither was a great fit for the Raps.
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For a rookie coach Mitchell wasn't bad imo.

Mitchell>>>>>>Triano
I don't see what you base that on other than your own bias. Like TO said, Mitchell was a motivator, Triano was more technical. But you need to be good at both parts to be a good head coach, something neither of them could do.

If Mitchell was sooo much better, tell me about his employment history after the raptors.
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6 of one... half dozen of the other.

They were two opposite sides of the same coin. Neither was a great fit for the Raps.
mitchell was the prefect fit for our young team. the only thing that didn't fit was BC interfering with him. i see casey the same way as i see mitchell. both are coaches that'll get your team ready to win, and once you're ready, you find a coach that can take you there. i never thought of either being longterm fixtures.
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mitchell was the prefect fit for our young team. the only thing that didn't fit was BC interfering with him. i see casey the same way as i see mitchell. both are coaches that'll get your team ready to win, and once you're ready, you find a coach that can take you there. i never thought of either being longterm fixtures.
i dunno dude. bit early to make a statement like that regarding Casey when he's been a head coach for a couple months. Head coaches got to start somewhere, and so far i find Casey has a pretty good balance of 'basketball mind', and principles/managing people.
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the same could be just as easily said otherwise. i don't think he's proven either managing or basketball mind yet. principles, shit yeah, but thats what mitchell was trying to teach.

i'll remain optimistic that he'll grow with experience and the team, cause i like him, but he's not proven to me that he can handle in-game situations like i'd expect from a head coach that'll be a head coach for a while.

edit - casey isn't a rookie head coach either. he was the head coach of the wolves and associate head coach of the sonics.

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One thing Casey has accomplished is role definition, which neither Triano nor Mitchell could get done. It's obvious that Casey knows how to rely on the skillsets of players he's been given rather than trying to completely impose his system absolutely. There were a lot of bad habits on this team and it wasn't going to be a quick fix. Now it's about adding talent and not just 18 year old projects.
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Had one post deleeted so I'll try again.... this is the dumbest idea/thread this year.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:47 AM   #94 (permalink)
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A lot of it is talent too but it was easy to see IMO that Triano and Mitchell sucked.

Did you like Kevin Oneill?
You know,I'm not sure what I thought of him. He struck me as insane and intense to the point that I didn't see the players having any way to relate to him. But I don't know, it was long ago and I don't remember it all. I know they seemed to play defence for him at first.


Did you like him?

Hell you were young then, he likely scared you!

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I don't see what you base that on other than your own bias. Like TO said, Mitchell was a motivator, Triano was more technical. But you need to be good at both parts to be a good head coach, something neither of them could do.

If Mitchell was sooo much better, tell me about his employment history after the raptors.
Sure i have a bias, obviously. But who got more out of their teams, which one had more success? More then anything it's an opinion. But at least Mitchell got us to the playoffs a couple times and won COY.
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One thing Casey has accomplished is role definition, which neither Triano nor Mitchell could get done.
BS. Those decisions were well made for him this year before he came. Toronto Management worked as a team before with those decisions and it was never the coaches ultimate decision, in fact THAT is one of the major factors that has been implemented for Casey so he could have full autonomy to instill his defensive system and principles this year.

Triano never had that, nor did Mitchell, and as far as I remember this has always been pretty clear.
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Mitchell's team was constistantly improving. Dude got fired when they were playing horrible basketball and yet only one game under.500. Who knows where we might be if he stayed on as HC.

Everytime the Raps sucked under Mitchell, they treaded the tough waters and came out a better team than before.

As for employment...He might be waiting for the right opportunity. It's understandable that he may feel he payed his due, and wants to coach a team that isn't starting from the ground up. Maybe he doesn't want to coach. Maybe nobody wants him. Who knows.
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Mitchell's team was constistantly improving. Dude got fired when they were playing horrible basketball and yet only one game under.500. Who knows where we might be if he stayed on as HC.

Everytime the Raps sucked under Mitchell, they treaded the tough waters and came out a better team than before.

As for employment...He might be waiting for the right opportunity. It's understandable that he may feel he payed his due, and wants to coach a team that isn't starting from the ground up. Maybe he doesn't want to coach. Maybe nobody wants him. Who knows.
Mitchell has been interviewed and has been a finalist for a couple HC positions in the NBA. And he's been an assistant. Can we really see Triano being a finalist for another HC job, assistant.....maybe? I can't understand anyone thinking Triano has shown to be better than Mitchell as an NBA HC. I'm not saying Mitchell is a great coach, just better than Triano.
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Mitchell's team was constistantly improving. Dude got fired when they were playing horrible basketball and yet only one game under.500. Who knows where we might be if he stayed on as HC.
maybe in an alternate universe, his last 3 seasons we won 47, 41 and then 33 games.
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As for employment...He might be waiting for the right opportunity. It's understandable that he may feel he payed his due, and wants to coach a team that isn't starting from the ground up. Maybe he doesn't want to coach. Maybe nobody wants him. Who knows.
that might be believable if :
1. it's been 4 years since he got canned, for somebody with little coaching experience and a pretty shaky track record, that's an eternity
2. as mentioned earlier, not only he is actively looking for a job, but he also accepted an inferior position while doing that.

as far as triano's chances of getting another job, they are pretty much nil, he has even less HC experience than mitchell and his record was even worse. However, he's shown that he's very good at Xs and Os, so an assistant position is possible, although I have a feeling that job is given more on personal relations than other merits and triano probably has very few connections since he never played in the nba.
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