Casey not happy with Calderon's safe play?
Old 12-29-2011, 11:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Raptors head coach Dwane Casey wasnít overwhelmed by the lack of fast break buckets by Toronto against Cleveland (0).

It took until late in the first against the Pacers before Toronto finally got a Jerryd Bayless conversion on the break, followed by a Bayless trip to the line off the run on the next play.

But largely because of the reluctance of Jose Calderon to take some chances after a couple of failed alley-oop attempts, the Raptors had only five fast break points at the half.

Calderon repeatedly pulled the ball back out instead of attacking the hoop.

Casey didnít appear happy with Calderonís reluctance to push the ball, if his waving arms were any indication.

Meanwhile, Bayless aggressively attacked the Pacers and helped the Raptors hang around.

The team finished with 10 points to Indianaís nine on the break.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They made a comment in yesterday's game about Casey yelling at us to run. Calderon constantly jogs the ball up the floor after we get a stop even when he has the opportunity to push it. I'm pretty happy with how he's playing so far but that part of his game will never fully go away. Dude has always played safe.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Were his waving arms a good indication of his unhappiness? Anyone have this on youtube?

Good analysis of the unhappily waving arms Wolstat. Coaches never wave arms unless they're incredibly unhappy.

Great journalism.
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We were 1st or 2nd in fastbreak points/game in 2010-11, here w/Jose running our offense, pushing the ball.

Fastbreaks is a part of a team's complete offense juss like every other area of offense; you need to work on it in practice, or it gets disjointed. Jose pulls it out instead of pushing it when he sees we're disjointed or, gotta give credit to the opposition, the defense finds a way to crack our fastbreak's rythm. The lack of practice makes a fastbreak disjointed.

8 of our 10 rotation players were here last season, so despite the lack of practice time available to all teams this season, it's only a matter of time before our fastbreaks are more efficient unto scoring well consistently through them.
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We were 1st or 2nd in fastbreak points/game in 2010-11, here w/Jose running our offense, pushing the ball.

Fastbreaks is a part of a team's complete offense juss like every other area of offense; you need to work on it in practice, or it gets disjointed. Jose pulls it out instead of pushing it when he sees we're disjointed or, gotta give credit to the opposition, the defense finds a way to crack our fastbreak's rythm. The lack of practice makes a fastbreak disjointed.

8 of our 10 rotation players were here last season, so despite the lack of practice time available to all teams this season, it's only a matter of time before our fastbreaks are more efficient unto scoring well consistently through them.
Jose was out for 6 weeks last December-January and bayless ended the season as our starter when Jose was again out I believe. Our fast break points I think were quite a bit higher with bayless compared to jose.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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They made a comment in yesterday's game about Casey yelling at us to run. Calderon constantly jogs the ball up the floor after we get a stop even when he has the opportunity to push it. I'm pretty happy with how he's playing so far but that part of his game will never fully go away. Dude has always played safe.
Are you really?

I think Jose has been abysmal running the team.
Too many times, he runs a pick and roll with Amir or Bargs and he settles for an 18ft jumper...it used to be MONEY...but not so much early on.

I've never been a huge fan of this as no one else is really touching the ball and really has the rest of the players on the floor doing nothing but run up and down the court.
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he gets to the basket every time he drives to the basket because no one expects it

he's safe. he's been like that forever, thats why his assist/to ratio is so good
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thats Bullshit man, the article I mean. Bayliss and his cavalier "pushing" is exactly what put this team behind so far in the second half. What a ridiculous article.

Fuck I get irritated when I read utter nonsense about the game of basketball. Calderon may have miss a couple chances to push for a fast break basket, but the article never states whether or not that possession turned into a made field goal or a high percentage shot does it?

It's Toronto media at it's lame finest, trying, again, LIKE EVERY FUCKING YEAR, to create a PG conflict where there is none.

Casey was waving his arms....OF COURSE HE WAS, he's a fucking coach, that's what they do. Casey has also stated on several occasions already how much he likes that Calderon protects the possessions and runs the teams offense.

BAH!

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Jose was out for 6 weeks last December-January and bayless ended the season as our starter when Jose was again out I believe. Our fast break points I think were quite a bit higher with bayless compared to jose.
Ya? I bet turnovers and poor percentage shots were too.
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Ya? I bet turnovers and poor percentage shots were too.
Yippy. We didn't win anymore games when Jose started and held onto to the ball.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So basically, the guy who wrote this sat there used a bunch of stats and took this straight from his ass.... If Casey had a problem with Jose he wouldn't have played him in his "hero" 4th quarter line up.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It's Toronto media at it's lame finest, trying, again, LIKE EVERY FUCKING YEAR, to create a PG conflict where there is none.
i'm definitely okay with having a solid one-two punch like we did when we had ford and calderon. it was very possible that for 48 minutes a night, we were the most efficient at that position throughout the league. i never understood why it had to be one or the other.

i'm starting to contemplate who is more frustrating to watch between Bargs and calderon, though. both are super talented, yet so tentative when it comes to 'going for it'. you'd think making it to the big league you'd have the confidence, but these guys, just frustrating.
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Pushing the pace and driving to the basket is simply not what Jose instinctively falls back on. It's quite the opposite. It is the other thing that I have complained about since he was promoted. Let's remember how so much of this city was up in arms over the idea of backing up TJ. The whole concept of a pg controversy, as ridiculous as it was, did not originate with the media. I remember coming back from a game when TJ was out of the lineup, but soon to return, and this kid on the subway was sitting with his knees pulled up to his chest and lamenting the very notion that Jose might not start. And it wasn't like he was setting the world on fire as a starter. That said, I think the coverage at this point should be about the need to upgrade that position altogether, and not try to stir up that same old hornet's nest.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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why upgrade?

you need a three WAY more, and a center WAY more.
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why upgrade?

you need a three WAY more, and a center WAY more.
So they can't walk and scratch their nutsack without falling over? They need to fill many holes. They are going to have to assess what they have, what can be acquired through a trade or trades(which is likely going to involve moving a player that is a pretty good fit), and who they can get in the draft. There should be a blueprint in place with all sorts of scenarios and options addressed. I think they can handle it.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It's not like Jose is playing the way he was two-three years ago when he was an absolute stat whore trying to preserve his assist/turnover ratio.

The only things that concerns me about Jose is that he doesn't look his usual cheery self. He looks depressed.
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It's not like Jose is playing the way he was two-three years ago when he was an absolute stat whore trying to preserve his assist/turnover ratio.

The only things that concerns me about Jose is that he doesn't look his usual cheery self. He looks depressed.
Depressed? Not at all......
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Depressed? Not at all......
Melancholy
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he looks all business to me.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I have a gifted ability to read the subtlest of emotions in people. Jose has been down in the dumps. Take my word for it.
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