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Old 01-02-2014, 07:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Because I haven't let this 12 game stretch cloud the memory of two seasons full of bone head moves and losses.
Have you thought about that maybe, just maybe BC was too much involved and micro managing the team including the roster, and maybe for once DC has a green light to do what he thinks is best for the team?
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I really never understood why casey gets so much hate on this forum. He's an inexperienced head coach with this being his first real job, the 50 odd games in Minnesota notwithstanding, so he's going to take time to get all the little things running smoothly. But those things are relatively easy to learn, as long as he gets the team to play D, everything else is easier. Defense is the hardest thing to teach and that's where he excels at. it may be the offensive improvements are related to the assistant coaches we hired, but whatever, thibodeau still has issues in that department and nobody is calling him a bad coach ...

I think what casey did here in his first season is nothing short of magic, and I'm willing to forgive him last season when we had to integrate a rookie center alongside Bargnani and demar and it's no surprise the defense collapsed.

This season, our D was top 10 pretty much since the beginning of the season and I thought everybody wanted us to be a defensive team first ... Casey is nothing like sam mitchell, any comparison between the two is way out of place as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Because I haven't let this 12 game stretch cloud the memory of two seasons full of bone head moves and losses.
in his first season he turned essentially the same roster from last to something like top 12 in defensive rating. That team also overachieved, because we were intended to tank - unfortunately we missed on a ton of great players because of those empty wins and the defensive improvements didn't carry over at all.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I can't recall Mitchell ever making a mistake like Casey's no-timeout against Charlotte.
This ^^^. Me personally, I would take Mitchell over Casey any day because he is a tough ass on all his players. Can't blame him for Bargs being a pussy. That was simply all BC's fault for not letting Mitchell go hard on him. Anyway congrats to Casey, keep the team playing well.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:43 PM   #25 (permalink)
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good for him but he better not be back next season
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Fuck no, don't want him back....

To many mistakes and SMALL BALL? Come on...

Always reactionary - matching up to other teams instead of making them match you?

The no timeout fuck ups

The benching of JV almost every 4th Quarter

No Balls to bench players like GAY Derozen Bargs when they are chucking

NO THANKS

Can we please please please get a REAL proven coach? This team is playing well, is young, and may have a star(s) in the making, and cap flexibility which might attract coaches for the job this off season....

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Old 01-02-2014, 09:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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This ^^^. Me personally, I would take Mitchell over Casey any day because he is a tough ass on all his players. Can't blame him for Bargs being a pussy. That was simply all BC's fault for not letting Mitchell go hard on him. Anyway congrats to Casey, keep the team playing well.
I would also take Smitch in a heartbeat, despite the recent success. Casey said himself why the offence is working better and he said point blank "We're running the same sets". That says to me that really it IS the players who were dragging the team down (Gay, Bargs) and Casey wouldn't try alter things then, so now that the Sac players are bringing a better energy and chemistry, by nature that will result in wins, especially when the scoring hierarchy has balanced out more.

As it was we lost several very close games where Rudy was terribly inefficient that had we had the team now, I think we would have won some of. (Houston, Portland, Charlotte, Brooklyn, Golden State)

But as long as it doesn't buy him an extension, keep it up.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I love Casey. I would love him to stay for a long time. Don't know where the hate is coming from. He finally has a decent rotation and he is doing well. The players respond to him and the team is improving every game.

Remember that he took over after Triano, a complete idiot who helped ruin the team. He basically had to make his players forget everything they knew and then teach them everything from scratch. Took him two years but at least you can see where the team is now. I don't think the Raptors were ever this good on D. Offensively, there is room to improve but, considering we don't have a classic go-to guy, he is doing a fin job.

Congrats Casey.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Have you thought about that maybe, just maybe BC was too much involved and micro managing the team including the roster, and maybe for once DC has a green light to do what he thinks is best for the team?
No because BC hasn't been the GM of this team this year and he's done some dumb things.

Much better coaches out there for us.
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I've got to hand it to him, his defensive schemes have been on point, but his rotations are still suspect at times. I feel like Lowry deserves most of the credit on offense though, he's been on a tear as a facilitator and leader.
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No because BC hasn't been the GM of this team this year and he's done some dumb things.

Much better coaches out there for us.
We started the season with Rudy, as you can tell, it didn't work. He is a coach, not a magician. If we finish 3rd with a decent record I can see him getting an extension for 2 years. Also, if you think there are some better coaches out there that are available and WANT to come and coach a young team, pls name them. It should be interesting, and don't tell me Sloan, SVG, JVG, Phil Jackson etc.... These won't come here, it was discussed before.
I am not saying he is a perfect fit for this team, just want you to explain why he is such a bad coach for this young group.

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Old 01-02-2014, 11:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Fuck no, don't want him back....

To many mistakes and SMALL BALL? Come on...

Always reactionary - matching up to other teams instead of making them match you?

The no timeout fuck ups

The benching of JV almost every 4th Quarter

No Balls to bench players like GAY Derozen Bargs when they are chucking

NO THANKS

Can we please please please get a REAL proven coach? This team is playing well, is young, and may have a star(s) in the making, and cap flexibility which might attract coaches for the job this off season....
Bargs and Gay are not on the team now.. and for Casey not benching those players probably had to do with their huge contracts and management wanted those dudes to play

I wouldn't move a coach that is developing a defensive culture for the team
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:38 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Also, if you think there are some better coaches out there that are available and WANT to come and coach a young team, pls name them.
We can't because we don't have a clue who would or wouldn't come. There are better coaches available, if we could get one of them we should. Money talks and it also depends on what Masai's moves do, how the roster looks this summer and if he can sell him plans for this team to a better coach. And don't think TL won't have a say with his connections. Maybe it's wishful thinking but i see this organization with those two being extremely aggressive to get who they want here.
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We started the season with Rudy, as you can tell, it didn't work. He is a coach, not a magician. If we finish 3rd with a decent record I can see him getting an extension for 2 years. Also, if you think there are some better coaches out there that are available and WANT to come and coach a young team, pls name them. It should be interesting, and don't tell me Sloan, SVG, JVG, Phil Jackson etc.... These won't come here, it was discussed before.
I am not saying he is a perfect fit for this team, just want you to explain why he is such a bad coach for this young group.
Lionel Hollins, George Karl and Lawrence Frank. I have been really critical of Casey before, but at the same time I have now looked back at past coaches of this team and realized that Casey was stuck in the same situation as Mitchell and Triano. All these coaches had rosters at times that were shit and had no depth and they more than likely were all forced to play players with big contracts or ones that were just lazy because BC wanted them to play. I will from this point forward show Casey more support, but at the same time his stupid mistakes he has made in past games needs to stop or else he will have to be moved for sure at season's end.
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:15 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:26 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Bargs and Gay are not on the team now.. and for Casey not benching those players probably had to do with their huge contracts and management wanted those dudes to play
sponsors would get pissed if their guys didnt play

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Old 01-03-2014, 09:57 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Fuck no, don't want him back....

To many mistakes and SMALL BALL? Come on...

Always reactionary - matching up to other teams instead of making them match you?

The no timeout fuck ups

The benching of JV almost every 4th Quarter

No Balls to bench players like GAY Derozen Bargs when they are chucking

NO THANKS

Can we please please please get a REAL proven coach? This team is playing well, is young, and may have a star(s) in the making, and cap flexibility which might attract coaches for the job this off season....
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:09 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I was at the point where i figured either he or Gay had to go, and i just couldn't see how Rudy would find any takers. As it turns out rudy leaving made all the difference in the world. Casey looks like a completely different guy.
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