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Bargn88 03-21-2012 01:44 PM

Casey on Bargnani(offence will come, unhappy with defence)
 
Coming into Tuesday’s game Bargnani appeared to be slowly rounding into the scoring form he had before a 20-game layoff with a left calf strain.

Casey sees the progress and he’s fine with that. What he’s not fine with, however, is the slippage in Bargnani’s defence.

As apparent and understandable his offensive struggles have been since returning from the long layoff, Casey seemed more concerned about his game at the other end of the floor.

“Defensively he’s kind of been a step off too,” Casey said. “I told him I understand the offence being (slow to come) but there’s no reason defensively that you can’t be where you are supposed to be. It’s not effort. It’s more focus and recognizing the situation.

“He’s focused but there’s a timing element that goes into rotations and when you’re out that long and you haven’t practised or had a lot of time to get a lot of practice, that timing of when to rotate and who do I rotate to, that split second is huge and that recognition is a part of the rust that he has been dealing with.”

In the six games since his return, Bargnani has averaged 12.8 points and 5.2 rebounds. As a team the Raps have given up an average of 102.2 points since his return. For the year opponents are averaging 94.8 points against Toronto.

One change for Bargnani Tuesday night was the lifting of his minutes restriction.

It was a preventative measure put in by Casey to ensure he didn’t overwork Bargnani too early in his comeback.

“The minute restrictions kind of took him out of his rhythm,” Casey said.

“Jerking him in and out to make sure I kept his minutes down. That has been an issue to kind of keep him from getting an offensive rhythm down.”

Mike Ganter Toronto Sun


So the offensive struggles can be explained based on the minute restrictions and having to jump in and out of action, however Casey is unhappy with his defence since coming back.

RAPMAN 03-21-2012 03:30 PM

That's right Casey, make him accountable. If you can play 33 minutes against NY and chuck up 15 shots, you can grab more than 2 rebounds. The Raptors are giving up more than 7 points since his return. Start playing Keliza at the 4, if Bargnani continues his old ways.

JDMtors 03-21-2012 05:47 PM

Kinda reminds me when Mitchell reduced his minutes for not playing defense as well. Thats the way to do it. If players arent producing the way you want them to be, dont be afraid to put them on the bench. Despite hs injury, hes also the most well rested. So there shuld be no excuses

carp 03-21-2012 06:24 PM

It's a good read. Casey is obviously blaming himself for how he's managed Bargnani's minutes but he's also got plenty of reason to do as he has. It's all much ado about nothing. Bargnani's defense isn't the only one that's been lacking, but he definitely can pick it up a bit. Good to hear a reasoned approach with how he manages his players though.

0nekhmer 03-21-2012 06:27 PM

Once his offensive game returns, there shouldn't be any excuses for defense

RaptorsFan4Life 03-21-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bargn88 (Post 628840)
Coming into Tuesday’s game Bargnani appeared to be slowly rounding into the scoring form he had before a 20-game layoff with a left calf strain.

Casey sees the progress and he’s fine with that. What he’s not fine with, however, is the slippage in Bargnani’s defence.

As apparent and understandable his offensive struggles have been since returning from the long layoff, Casey seemed more concerned about his game at the other end of the floor.

“Defensively he’s kind of been a step off too,” Casey said. “I told him I understand the offence being (slow to come) but there’s no reason defensively that you can’t be where you are supposed to be. It’s not effort. It’s more focus and recognizing the situation.

“He’s focused but there’s a timing element that goes into rotations and when you’re out that long and you haven’t practised or had a lot of time to get a lot of practice, that timing of when to rotate and who do I rotate to, that split second is huge and that recognition is a part of the rust that he has been dealing with.”

In the six games since his return, Bargnani has averaged 12.8 points and 5.2 rebounds. As a team the Raps have given up an average of 102.2 points since his return. For the year opponents are averaging 94.8 points against Toronto.

One change for Bargnani Tuesday night was the lifting of his minutes restriction.

It was a preventative measure put in by Casey to ensure he didn’t overwork Bargnani too early in his comeback.

“The minute restrictions kind of took him out of his rhythm,” Casey said.

“Jerking him in and out to make sure I kept his minutes down. That has been an issue to kind of keep him from getting an offensive rhythm down.”

Mike Ganter Toronto Sun


So the offensive struggles can be explained based on the minute restrictions and having to jump in and out of action, however Casey is unhappy with his defence since coming back.


No source.

AR1815 03-21-2012 07:11 PM

I agree with Casey, and good to see him call Bargs out on it. Bargs shouldn't have too much trouble with Bulls' front in terms of keeping them from scoring, but he's really gotta box out and keep them off the boards. If they get easy putbacks, we have no shot.

neojiphre 03-21-2012 08:36 PM

as one of the tallest guys on the floor, i think he has to improve his rebounding too.

VanCity 03-21-2012 09:02 PM

iam very disappointed with bargs. against the knicks, he didnt box out well which lead to easy rebounds for the other team. defense has been bad, although he had some matchup problems because of switches. dont care about offense, as long as he keeps driving to the rim.

Bargn88 03-21-2012 09:39 PM

2/10 shooting, 8 points. Did have 5 boards, 6 assists and a steal..but ...

Whatthefuck!

moujik 03-21-2012 10:19 PM

I can't believe Bargnani gets any playing time, seeing how he just watches opposing guards to prance in the middle of the lane to lay it up.
Casey, don't call him out! Bench his fat ass!
He doesn't rebound, but it's not his fault sneaky opponents fly to get offensive rebounds from behind his back, he has no eyes on the back of the neck.
AB has got a good eye for fashion and beauty though. Standing on the weak side, observing these super athletes to cut through the lane in silky-like robes, following the contractions of their muscles, may it never end, true magic! Hence, il mago.

neojiphre 03-21-2012 10:22 PM

it's not his fault that guards are getting to the line (that's derozan and calderon's) but i still say he's also part of the problem defensively, and his rebounding (or lack of) doesn't help.

MakeMyDeparture 03-21-2012 10:57 PM

When his offense is on you can sort of live with his defensive issues, since coming back from the injury he's been pretty bad offensively, so it's harder to turn a blind eye to his defense/rebounding.

Bargn88 03-21-2012 11:02 PM

From Eric Koreen Twitter

“The leg is fine. Of course, I don’t have the rhythm, the shape. Anyway, I’m playing really bad offensively.” - Andrea "The Truth" Bargnani

Bargn88 03-21-2012 11:43 PM

Time for Toronto Raptors' Andrea Bargnani to prove he is a star | Sports | National Post

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Offensively, as expected, he’s a little rusty. His timing is off, knowing when to attack and when not to,” Casey said before his team lost 94-82 to the Chicago Bulls at the Air Canada Centre. “And also the same defensively: His timing is off a little bit. But it’s not from the lack of effort … He’s been playing hard, going hard, working his way back into shape. It’s just that timing.”
Bargnani had eight points and five rebounds on two-for-10 shooting against the Bulls, continuing a trend. He averaged just 13.1 points per game on 35% shooting — 17% on three-pointers — in his first seven games back. He was down to 4.1 free-throw attempts per game.
And the timing, certainly, is a factor. Bargnani’s six assists against the Bulls spoke to his contribution elsewhere on the floor. The defence, poor in the past stretch, improved. That has to earn him some points.

However, this is a player for whom Casey went to the wall for, claiming he was a legitimate star. If Bargnani is a star, he must produce. He does not get two weeks to round into shape. It is time for Bargnani to prove the first month of the season was not a fantasy. Bargnani, sooner rather than later, is going to have to re-earn his coach’s praise with more than just effort.

“The leg is fine. Of course, I don’t have the rhythm, the shape,” Bargnani said after the game. “Anyway, I’m playing really bad offensively.”

“He’s one of our guys. He’ll get it back,” Casey added. ”Once he gets his sea legs … he’s going to get his offence back.

bjjs 03-21-2012 11:47 PM

Collangelo is such a fucking clown.

TORaptor4Ever 03-21-2012 11:49 PM

I'm getting so tired of waiting for this guy to justify the love that he gets.

bjjs 03-21-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 629052)
I'm getting so tired of waiting for this guy to justify the love that he gets.

It's fucking stupid. Fuck Bagnani, Fuck Collangelo, Fuck Italian dude from MLSE, Tanenbaum or whatever. NBATV sessions with Sam Mitchell are more entertaining then Raptors basketball 2012.

It's a joke. Tank to get a top prospect to develop in a broken system. yay shitty basketball yay.


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