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Old 12-05-2012, 02:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you have any sort of reliance on Bargnani, kiss your job away. What has been our record this year, and the past two years when this chucker was your main offensive weapon and getting the most minutes on the floor. He is not a winner, whatever he gives you on the offensive end, he simply take away on the defensive end. If Bargnani is not traded, and our GM and Coach is putting their jobs on the line hoping this team starts winning by giving this stiff more than 30 minutes per game, the unempoyment line is just around the corner.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You and Jeff are only two!

Somebody says trade Bargnani and the bitching commences!!!

I was going to say 3 amigos.

you can't deny the fact that you, barg88 and sometimes pzabby always back each other up and always love it when casey or anybody really says anything positive about bargs. when someone so much as touches a hair on Bargs or makes any sort of critique you give them a -1, pouncing on them.

also, many people call anyone who critiques Bargs a hater. this is not true. a hater is one who would say that, for example, "bargs is a piece of s**t that belongs in the dleague or in europe". that is a hater. someone who'd critique Bargs would say "bargs would be best suited as a 3rd option or a 6th man on a contending or championship team however here he is forced to do too much offensively and his flaws (help d, at times man2man d and lack of presence on the glass) are clearly visible.
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He does? I'm constantly seeing him go against two players once he starts posting up and usually then holds on to the ball too long and takes a fadeaway. Most of what he does doesn't seem to look easy.
he starts the game doing that regardless of what the D is giving.
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Bargnani needs to be traded,sooner the better,for him and for team. This team isn't structured like how the Mavs were for years until they won a championship and Bargs is NO Dirk. It hasn't been working and it won't work with the idea that the offense has to run through him.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I was going to say 3 amigos.

you can't deny the fact that you, barg88 and sometimes pzabby always back each other up and always love it when casey or anybody really says anything positive about bargs. when someone so much as touches a hair on Bargs or makes any sort of critique you give them a -1, pouncing on them.

also, many people call anyone who critiques Bargs a hater. this is not true. a hater is one who would say that, for example, "bargs is a piece of s**t that belongs in the dleague or in europe". that is a hater. someone who'd critique Bargs would say "bargs would be best suited as a 3rd option or a 6th man on a contending or championship team however here he is forced to do too much offensively and his flaws (help d, at times man2man d and lack of presence on the glass) are clearly visible.
Dude, you're delirious, and not in an Eddie Murphy way. I've given you so many +1's it's actually disturbing. As far as calling Bargs bashing hating, it's the incessant need to repeat the same shit that will get you that. Not you necessarily. But please acknowledge the 'fanboy' and 'lover' language that gets used for supporters of Bargnani.

Get over it, you're better than that.... as for those -1'ing you, they're not better than that. Forget them.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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he starts the game doing that regardless of what the D is giving.
But isn't Bargnani making it so much easier for him, you know.....atop his perch 25ft from the rim?
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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But isn't Bargnani making it so much easier for him, you know.....atop his perch 25ft from the rim?
Yes he is, but you need to use that and not just take selfish, baseline fadeaway jumpers out of the flow of the offense.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bargnani needs to be traded....its not a knock on the team or management,its just time. In games where he's had terrible and under averaged statistics,they've won. The Raptors are ready to move on without him,Casey and Colangelo are the last ones to accept this but its time. I'm not here to diss Bargnani or "hate" on him,but they don't need him as their #1 scorer
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Dude, you're delirious, and not in an Eddie Murphy way. I've given you so many +1's it's actually disturbing. As far as calling Bargs bashing hating, it's the incessant need to repeat the same shit that will get you that. Not you necessarily. But please acknowledge the 'fanboy' and 'lover' language that gets used for supporters of Bargnani.

Get over it, you're better than that.... as for those -1'ing you, they're not better than that. Forget them.
I'm not delirious.

you've given me so many +1s

someone else said it on another thread that if I recall they said your semi-trolling is annoying. they could've said something else but I think that's what they said. you then replied I believe explaining your sarcasm. your sarcasm is the key thing which makes me wonder what you imply: is he being funny? sarcastic? drole? a jerk? trying to make a joke? so, it comes as a shock/surprise when you've said that you've given me "so many +1s".

also, the -1ing has been present when I've discussed things with you or bargn88 but it's been pretty visible whenever someone/anyone crtiques bargs.
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Yes he is, but you need to use that and not just take selfish, baseline fadeaway jumpers out of the flow of the offense.
So are you disagreeing with the other thread on how much brighter Demar is this season, if not there's a discrepancy here. Either Bargs makes it easier for Demar to score and Demar is too stupid to take advantage. Or Bargnani isn't making it any easier for Demar and he's constantly forced to take difficult shots and fadeaways.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Bargnani needs to be traded....its not a knock on the team or management,its just time. In games where he's had terrible and under averaged statistics,they've won. The Raptors are ready to move on without him,Casey and Colangelo are the last ones to accept this but its time. I'm not here to diss Bargnani or "hate" on him,but they don't need him as their #1 scorer
you're right, they don't NEED him as their number one scorer, but a witchhunt to pin the blame of this team sucking on one guy is pointless.

We have a void at SF and our supposedly best PG combo in the league has been far below expectations which were obviously misplaced.

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Old 12-05-2012, 02:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I was going to say 3 amigos.

you can't deny the fact that you, barg88 and sometimes pzabby always back each other up and always love it when casey or anybody really says anything positive about bargs. when someone so much as touches a hair on Bargs or makes any sort of critique you give them a -1, pouncing on them.

also, many people call anyone who critiques Bargs a hater. this is not true. a hater is one who would say that, for example, "bargs is a piece of s**t that belongs in the dleague or in europe". that is a hater. someone who'd critique Bargs would say "bargs would be best suited as a 3rd option or a 6th man on a contending or championship team however here he is forced to do too much offensively and his flaws (help d, at times man2man d and lack of presence on the glass) are clearly visible.
I agree you are not a hater, that is very true. As for the -1's, you need to relax, they don't mean anything. Last night I got -1's for 3 straight posts, and I was pretty sure who they came from, but that doesn't matter, not everyone is going to agree with your opinion.
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So are you disagreeing with the other thread on how much brighter Demar is this season, if not there's a discrepancy here. Either Bargs makes it easier for Demar to score and Demar is too stupid to take advantage. Or Bargnani isn't making it any easier for Demar and he's constantly forced to take difficult shots and fadeaways.
I'm not refuting anything... and you can see his decisiion-making lately has been awful.... can't you? Go to the game thread, you've said it yourself.
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but a witchhunt to pin the blame of this team sucking on one guy isn't pointless.
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I agree you are not a hater, that is very true. As for the -1's, you need to relax, they don't mean anything. Last night I got -1's for 3 straight posts, and I was pretty sure who they came from, but that doesn't matter, not everyone is going to agree with your opinion.
it's just annoying/childish
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I'll say it now, if we trade Bargnani for someone not in all star caliber range ala rudy gay or deng, this team will be worse off. you can quote me on this. we WILL be worse off. fuck.


plays well on offence, picked up his defence that everyone was nagging about, and now y'all still want him gone? fickle
Wow +3??? Looks like we have a 4th Musketeer waiting in the wings, come out lurker, identify yourself, we want you

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I'm not delirious.

you've given me so many +1s

someone else said it on another thread that if I recall they said your semi-trolling is annoying. they could've said something else but I think that's what they said. you then replied I believe explaining your sarcasm. your sarcasm is the key thing which makes me wonder what you imply: is he being funny? sarcastic? drole? a jerk? trying to make a joke? so, it comes as a shock/surprise when you've said that you've given me "so many +1s".

also, the -1ing has been present when I've discussed things with you or bargn88 but it's been pretty visible whenever someone/anyone crtiques bargs.
It's fine, however you look at it. I'm on the wagon that wants the +/- to not be anonymous. I've given you many pluses in the past, especially when I've thought your Bargnani criticisms didn't deserve the negative they've received.

As for my posting style, I acknowledge my abrasive charm, it's why the ladies love me, the girls adore me, I mean even the ones that don't even know me like me.... I prefer sarcasm to hatred, laughter to complaining, reason to piggybacking, love to resentment.... I love you man, I really do! You had me at -1. Shut up, just shut up! You repeat me. Show me the money. My word is stronger than oak.
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you're right, they don't NEED him as their number one scorer, but a witchhunt to pin the blame of this team sucking on one guy isn't pointless.

We have a void at SF and our supposedly best PG combo in the league has been far below expectations which were obviously misplaced.
I think the idea of removing him from the roster isn't about hate or placing blame but rather a change in philosophy on offense thinking that you can build around a passive 7 foot center who predominantly functions from the perimeter. If there was a way of reducing his role without decresing his value then do it but as of right now,aside from making him a 6th man(which most people are against) I don't see how they can do that. This leaves trading him as the best option in my opinion. Even if you get a decent SF to fill that gap,this team is a 1st round playoff team at best. Pro basketball teams need their big men,PF's to rebound and play aggressive positional & help defense(in addition to whatever bonuses they bring),Bargnani lacks this on a consistent basis.
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haha... you caught me!! lol... damn it, trade Bargnani so we can get on with a newer, fresher witchhunt about that fat fuck PG we're about to pay max money to!

Jokes.
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