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Old 07-12-2012, 03:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Is Lowry that much better than Calderon?

I mean, he isn't on team USA. Maybe he didn't fi the system there?
In two years, everyone will be talking about the next Lowry, named Jerryd Bayless, as he nears free agency and takes his turn as the flavour of the time!
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The fire is in Calderon's eyes ! Just loving it everytime the Raptors bring in a young point pg Jose just brings it up another notch.


Jose Calderon has no interest in being the best back-up point guard in the NBA. With Kyle Lowry’s move to Toronto now official, Al Dannity says to expect fireworks from the Spaniard as he looks to make a mark at the Olympics.

What we’ve got here is a man with three things, namely motive, talent, and opportunity. Technically Calderon had all of these before Toronto moved for Lowry but the acquisition of the Rocket adds a different flavour to the mix. Glory is not the only factor driving Calderon now. On a global stage he has the chance to make a statement to the man who wants his job as starting point guard and to the organisation that doesn’t see him in its future. To do so he will have to lead Spain back to the Olympic Final and they must be competitive with the United States in that fight for gold. In a roster loaded with bigs, look for Calderon to be a dime-dropping machine when the eyes of Toronto are watching.


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Old 07-12-2012, 03:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Come on now SJ. Don't be ridiculous. You think Jose would make the US roster?
Nope

But He's starting on Spains, and they are pretty decent.

I don't really care what the schmuck who keeps starting these threads is saying, I'm more tired of the responses.

People get so carried away with an idea sometimes.

people don't fit the system...what system? What system is being run. Hell I'd wager most guy on this boar4d couldn't identify a system, yet they are experts at knowing the new guys "fits" it better.

I'm sure Lowry is good, I have seen him play, but why must people always equate one guy being good with another being shitty. Jose Calderon is one hell of a good player. Maybe Lowry plays better d, maybe he's a bit more aggressive, I think it remains to be seen just how much.

The grass is ALWAYS greener with some guys man.... I'm afraid that people here who think Kyle Lowry is goin to walk in here and start walking on water are going to be sadly let down. Calderon has not been the Raptors issue, certainly not when healthy, and last year, and so far this year he is.

Hope everyone knows Lowry has missed as many games as Calderon the last few years... don't start ragging on him if he misses more.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Lowry can rebound quite well, defends well, shoots the 3 quite well, gets to the line, and can actually penetrate opposing D, am I missing something
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It's not about the system as much as it is about how the game is played in this league, and looks to continue to be played into the future. Speed is as important, if not more important than size, particularly when talking about speed coming at the point of attack. Being able to defend that point of attack becomes just as essential.

That doesn't mean there's no place for a great basketball player like Steve Nash. But Jose is not Steve Nash. He's simply not the type of pg you want to build a team around. It's not rocket science.
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Maybe if Jose Calderon had some friggen talent around him, he could do something.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:14 PM   #27 (permalink)
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He's simply not the type of pg you want to build a team around. It's not rocket science.
So Lowry is the guy we want to build a team around ??? There is only a 4 year differance.....In a couple of years we will be looking for another pg !!!!! We had Jose and Bayless....we were ok at the pg position... we have bigger problems then worrying about that position. Thats where i stood right from day one and will not waver like most on this site.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Calderon has always been a team player. He'll accept to be a back-up player when he loses his job to Lowry during pre-season. Jonas won't start right away, what better player to run the pick and roll than Jose in the second unit.
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It's not about the system as much as it is about how the game is played in this league, and looks to continue to be played into the future. Speed is as important, if not more important than size, particularly when talking about speed coming at the point of attack. Being able to defend that point of attack becomes just as essential.

That doesn't mean there's no place for a great basketball player like Steve Nash. But Jose is not Steve Nash. He's simply not the type of pg you want to build a team around. It's not rocket science.
See, Jose is a perfect complementary PG. If he has 4 guys that are more talented than him to play with, he is awesome. When he has to fill a role as one of the top 2 or 3 players on the team (which is what he is here) he is less effective.

I'd love to have 28 year old Jose playing for this team in 2 or 3 years when we might do something. He's a great team guy who makes plays for his teammates first.

But 34 year old Jose, not so much. That's the main reason I really like the Lowry move - I like the defense, the intensity, the shooting, the aggressiveness and the DEFENSE, but the key decider between Jose and him is their age. Jose, however you look at it, won't be a starter for this team when we are potentially competing. I'd love him back as a backup for a decent deal to play 15 minutes a night - a role I could see his body keeping up with, especially playing against other backups. But in the starter spot, it is the right time to go a little younger, a little less set, with a little more potential to make a difference regardless of who the teammates are.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:21 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Maybe if Jose Calderon had some friggen talent around him, he could do something.
He still wouldn't be Steve Nash. He is far too inclined to play 20+ feet from the basket at both ends. That just isn't going to get it done in the NBA. Show me one pg in the playoffs that couldn't attack. And look at the importance of defending among that same group. You might say Ramon Sessions doesn't fit that mold at all, and you might also say he hurt his team dearly.
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what better player to run the pick and roll than Jose in the second unit.
Thank you. Jose is everything you want, from a BACKUP PG. He pretty much defines what the backup PG is. You want your backup PG to not make mistakes and to just get guys involved and do simple things. Jose is perfect in that role as seen in 06-07.
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Thank you. Jose is everything you want, from a BACKUP PG. He pretty much defines what the backup PG is. You want your backup PG to not make mistakes and to just get guys involved and do simple things. Jose is perfect in that role as seen in 06-07.
so you want your starter to make mistakes? If so, I should be starting for the raps! .....
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so you want your starter to make mistakes? If so, I should be starting for the raps! .....
Well to a degree, yes. You want your starting PG to be able to take some risks and try something inventive. There's more to being a PG than Assist-Turnover Ratio. You don't want your starting PG to be uber conservative with the basketball and take no risks whatsoever. pzabby, I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread, you and raptor123 must unite!
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:41 PM   #34 (permalink)
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So Lowry is the guy we want to build a team around ??? There is only a 4 year differance.....In a couple of years we will be looking for another pg !!!!! We had Jose and Bayless....we were ok at the pg position... we have bigger problems then worrying about that position. Thats where i stood right from day one and will not waver like most on this site.
You're boring.

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So Lowry is the guy we want to build a team around ??? There is only a 4 year differance.....In a couple of years we will be looking for another pg !!!!! We had Jose and Bayless....we were ok at the pg position... we have bigger problems then worrying about that position. Thats where i stood right from day one and will not waver like most on this site.
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I like it !

Many on here go through point guards like its a new flavour of the month !

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Jose is like the Raps' Bob Rae
No, Rae knows he is finished...
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I hope Jose goes off for 30/20/8 every game in the olympics.
Would bring up his trade value to insane levels, then we can ship the old injury bug out the door.
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I would love Jose off the bench. But I don't think it's an option. He has come to expect playing time at the end of games sharing the backcourt, at the very least. And I'm not sure that would be a great expectation for him to have.
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