Calderon needs a change of scenery

jeffb · 12-10-2012, 12:21 PM

As much as i don't like him as a PG most of the time and think he needs to be moved. He deserves better imo, he's been loyal and is a good team player. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets moved and has a chance at winning.

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Jose Manuel Calderon on a potential trade before the end of the season: "I don't rule it out. My contract comes to an end and probably there will be a chance the franchise thinks about trading me to get something in return. It's a possibility. I don't know what will happen." ElMundo.es

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"It's a difficult situation. It's not easy to stay always motivated and play your best, but that doesn't mean you don't have to go out there and play 200 percent." ElMundo.es

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"Going to a better team would be like starting from scratch, like coming to the NBA again." ElMundo.es

Chauncey Billups gave him some advice yesterday:

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Chauncey Billups had a brief exchange with Calderon. "Come June you will be able to put yourself in a good position to be with a winning team," Billups told him. ElMundo.es

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niggles · 12-10-2012, 12:24 PM

Can we start an over/under thread on how long R123 takes to show up?

Raptors1995 · 12-10-2012, 12:26 PM

We should trade him and try to get something back. I don't see him re-signing with us.

jeffb · 12-10-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by niggles

Can we start an over/under thread on how long R123 takes to show up?

I would think he'd agree to be honest.

niggles · 12-10-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

I would think he'd agree to be honest.

Yes, but it wouldn't be sermon-free.

carp · 12-10-2012, 12:31 PM

Jose does deserve better. He's never had a good backcourt mate to play with here.

FLO · 12-10-2012, 12:32 PM

Boy, comments like that must be great for team camaraderie. Jose's checked out mentally and it shows by his uninspired play. Wonder if Jose was a target during the team meeting?

niggles · 12-10-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

Jose does deserve better. He's never had a good backcourt mate to play with here.

Parker was the best.

FLO · 12-10-2012, 12:40 PM

Jose should go and destroy another team with his league-worst defense.

carp · 12-10-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by niggles

Parker was the best.

That's such a gross statement.

Dario · 12-10-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FLO

Jose should go and destroy another team with his league-worst defense.

thats why he's going to be potential sixth man at best.

Gurk · 12-10-2012, 12:45 PM

I really hope he is traded, I love the guy but he has been shitting it up of the bench and if we get another back up PG he definitely won't be getting the same amount of minutes Jose was getting.

niggles · 12-10-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

That's such a gross statement.

It netted a response.

@BaileysBlitz · 12-10-2012, 01:00 PM

Yea and the Raptors need a change of scenery with their PG combination. I feel no sympathy for Jose as far as treatment goes. He got paid a lot of money,was given a lot of fame and leeway by Toronto. He was decent but no star so there's was never a problem with the GM trying to trade him if it made the team better. He needs to be dealt at some point because he is somewhat of an asset and clearly,he's bouncing for a contender in the off season.

RAPMAN · 12-10-2012, 01:08 PM

His best years were with Bosh. Miss having an all-star player, he made alot of player's job more easier. When you don't have that one guy you can ride, you have bunch of supporting cast talent trying to force their games and no execution during crunch time.

raptor123 · 12-10-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FLO

Boy, comments like that must be great for team camaraderie. Jose's checked out mentally and it shows by his uninspired play. Wonder if Jose was a target during the team meeting?

I can't provide a source.....but Lowry was a target in the meeting.....how did Lowry look after his 1 st game after the meeting ??

As far as Calderon is concerned no matter how well he plays he knows Lowry will get his minutes and lots of minutes...the organization is committed to Lowry with the 1st pick and all.

Calderon knows hes done after this year with the Raptors. The entire NBA is aware of it. So don't get to excited that he finishes the year with us only to see him go to where he wants to finish his NBA career.

carp · 12-10-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor123

I can't provide a source.....but Lowry was a target in the meeting.....how did Lowry look after his 1 st game after the meeting ??

As far as Calderon is concerned no matter how well he plays he knows Lowry will get his minutes and lots of minutes...the organization is committed to Lowry with the 1st pick and all.

Calderon knows hes done after this year with the Raptors. The entire NBA is aware of it. So don't get to excited that he finishes the year with us only to see him go to where he wants to finish his NBA career.

agreed... they really should have moved him already.

I look at guys like Mo Williams, Ray Felton, Jarrett Jack, etc. These guys were at one point considered on Jose's level, in his tier, and still are, but they've been moved around and have learned to adapt to different roles. They've been successful after being moved, I think Jose will be too. His time here is done and it's just unfortunate we haven't been able to move him for both him and the team's benefit.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu · 12-10-2012, 02:53 PM

Calderon is nothing but class and deserves to go somewhere better than this. He might suck defensively, but on another team they can hide that failing and he will look like a better player since he can be so good on the offensive end.

niggles · 12-10-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu

Calderon is nothing but class and deserves to go somewhere better than this. He might suck defensively, but on another team they can hide that failing and he will look like a better player since he can be so good on the offensive end.

Calderon is subtle. Don't take everything at face value.

Mobat · 12-10-2012, 03:34 PM

Yeah he's so class when he insults his teammates and makes bullshit propaganda videos to usurp the starting role from his teammate. It was also class when he blamed his terrible play and disappointing season on a slight hamstring strain.

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Gurk is one sexy motherfucker you ain't bout that life Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,680 Representing:	I really hope he is traded, I love the guy but he has been shitting it up of the bench and if we get another back up PG he definitely won't be getting the same amount of minutes Jose was getting.

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RAPMAN is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,673 Representing:	His best years were with Bosh. Miss having an all-star player, he made alot of player's job more easier. When you don't have that one guy you can ride, you have bunch of supporting cast talent trying to force their games and no execution during crunch time.

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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu is payin Dwyane Wade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,554 Representing:	Calderon is nothing but class and deserves to go somewhere better than this. He might suck defensively, but on another team they can hide that failing and he will look like a better player since he can be so good on the offensive end.

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Mobat is pounding the rock! Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94 Representing:	Yeah he's so class when he insults his teammates and makes bullshit propaganda videos to usurp the starting role from his teammate. It was also class when he blamed his terrible play and disappointing season on a slight hamstring strain.