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Old 11-06-2012, 04:24 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:32 PM   #82 (permalink)
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That is a defeatest attitude...tHE TEAM IS STUCK IN NEUTRAL. Bargnani will anchor the team ( drag the bottom) and not be trade bait as long as Colangelo is in town...Need a GM who has mandate to rebuild... Isn't it interesting the RAps play better when Il Muggo rests on the pine...

There has to be a better option.
I think the team is moving a little step forward with Lowry and the development of Jonas. Also the improvement of Derozan is a step in the right direction. Totally agree with the Bargnani comments:

"The Raptors can credit Kyle Lowry for their respectable start, which has included narrow losses to the Pacers and Nets and a victory against the Timberwolves. The former Rocket has led them in scoring in each of their first three games and has given them the leader they've sorely lacked. Andre Bargnani remains allergic to rebounding (2.3 per game), but Toronto's other building block, DeMar DeRozan, has played well after signing his $40 million extension. Make no mistake, the Raptors are rebuilding this year, but at least they have a blueprint now."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2BTtvqrhp

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:48 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:50 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I think the team is moving a little step forward with Lowry and the development of Jonas. Also the improvement of Derozan is a step in the right direction. Totally agree with the Bargnani comments:

"The Raptors can credit Kyle Lowry for their respectable start, which has included narrow losses to the Pacers and Nets and a victory against the Timberwolves. The former Rocket has led them in scoring in each of their first three games and has given them the leader they've sorely lacked. Andre Bargnani remains allergic to rebounding (2.3 per game), but Toronto's other building block, DeMar DeRozan, has played well after signing his $40 million extension. Make no mistake, the Raptors are rebuilding this year, but at least they have a blueprint now."

Read more: Miami Heat hold top spot in NBA Power Rankings - Matt Dollinger - SI.com

Honestly, this is the US media begrudgingly allowing Toronto not to be the laughing stock this year. I mean fuck.... they treated toronto like the worst franchise in the world always, every year when there were 6-7 teams as bad or worse that always seemed to get passes. So really, quoting them.... means dick all to moi!
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:16 PM   #85 (permalink)
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BC has a chance to convince Lowry to stay IMO.... If DD continues to play like this that'll help A LOT. He (Lowry) would also have the chance to be the franchise player here and the undisputed leader of the team which has to be appealing. Also seems to have a good relationship with the Raps coaching staff....
i think his relationship with the coaching staff will remain positive as long as we're competing every night. i don't think his nature bodes well with a losing (-30 win) team thou. i'd also be worried about how his relationship with Bargnani will be going forward when he starts to notices the lack of concentration/effort he plays with on any given night.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:29 PM   #86 (permalink)
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you mean the team we best 18 times straight is much better than us ?

minesotta has been in rebuilding mode for 7 years running, we've only been for 2. And in the last 4 seasons we drafted 9, 13, 5 and 8. How could any GM draft a Durant or Westbrook that low???
If you'd really argue that a healthy Minnesota is a worse team than us, I want some of whatever you're smoking.

I'll agree BC has a solid drafting record, but the westbrook example was off because he was taken 4th overall (as were players like Chris Paul, Glen Rice, etc.)
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:57 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Yes, the 2006 class was not a deep draft. No way the value of Bargnani is worth more than Rudy Gay. The draft was not deep, but it did have some gems like Rondo, Lowry, and Millsap. The worst draft in history is the 2000 draft.
You would have been fired instantly for picking them 1st overall for gawd sake!!!

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Dude, Colangelo goes we get Stefanski since the org is just that lazy.
You don't think by and large this is already the case? I do.

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Old 11-07-2012, 02:13 AM   #88 (permalink)
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i think his relationship with the coaching staff will remain positive as long as we're competing every night. i don't think his nature bodes well with a losing (-30 win) team thou. i'd also be worried about how his relationship with Bargnani will be going forward when he starts to notices the lack of concentration/effort he plays with on any given night.
I agree. Just one more reason I want Bargs gone by the trade deadline.

I'd be very happy to get another scorer at the SF spot for him and let our 4 and 5 spots ACT like true 4s and 5s.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:40 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Why is my post eye roll worthy? We've made the playoffs what, 2 times in 7 years? Why is Colangelo still looked at in a positive light? He keeps making the same type of stupid free agent signings, and his vision for the team is horrible. If he actually had his way we'd have killed our cap in signing Nash and have a for sure 8th place team with no upside. Now we have more flexibility, but its only because Nash saved BC from himself. How can anyone trust him as a GM after Kapono, Turkoglu, Kleiza, and Fields? And that isnt the end of the bad moves he's made.

I guess as long as he keeps talking a good game, the Raptors fans blinders will be on. He hasnt even done a bad job here, hes been horrible. There are better candidates out there.

If you replaced a no name GM in BCs place for the past 7 years who made the exact same moves as BC, he would have been fired at some point within those 4 years. Am I wrong in saying that?
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Why is my post eye roll worthy? We've made the playoffs what, 2 times in 7 years?
I judge him in two catagories....2 of the first 4yrs we made the playoffs (should have been 3 if Bosh didn't break his face), Since then it's been the rebuild years after Bosh left. And i believe he's done a pretty good job in both phases. We all look at things differently obviously, and i just think he's done a pretty good job overall even though things haven't been far from perfect.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:29 PM   #91 (permalink)
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We've made the playoffs 2/7 years. I still dont get how hes done a pretty good job overall. Hes tied us up financially even now to where we're paying 3 guys who dont contibute much in Fields, Amir, and Kleiza about 17 million per year. Most of his signings have been awful. How can you trust him to make us a playoff team for years to come? Isnt that the goal? We're still so far away it seems.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Well.... BC is supposed to be good at "correcting his mistakes" and moving "unmoveable contracts"....

Let's see what he accomplish by the trade deadline. I'm willing to give him until then to prove his worth.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:55 PM   #93 (permalink)
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How about stop making mistakes and make us a perennial playoff team and contender? Thats not too much to ask for given his reputation and how much we've been through the last 16 years
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If Toronto doesn't extend Colangelo,who do they bring in? I'm still waiting on names for qualified candidates.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Why is my post eye roll worthy? We've made the playoffs what, 2 times in 7 years? Why is Colangelo still looked at in a positive light? He keeps making the same type of stupid free agent signings, and his vision for the team is horrible. If he actually had his way we'd have killed our cap in signing Nash and have a for sure 8th place team with no upside. Now we have more flexibility, but its only because Nash saved BC from himself. How can anyone trust him as a GM after Kapono, Turkoglu, Kleiza, and Fields? And that isnt the end of the bad moves he's made.

I guess as long as he keeps talking a good game, the Raptors fans blinders will be on. He hasnt even done a bad job here, hes been horrible. There are better candidates out there.

If you replaced a no name GM in BCs place for the past 7 years who made the exact same moves as BC, he would have been fired at some point within those 4 years. Am I wrong in saying that?
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The Collangelo era desparately needs to come to an end. He came aboard with solid momentum created by Mitchell/Bosh/Embry and has created nothing since.

Somebody End this Misery and send him back to Phoenix!!
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:41 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Well.... BC is supposed to be good at "correcting his mistakes" and moving "unmoveable contracts"....

Let's see what he accomplish by the trade deadline. I'm willing to give him until then to prove his worth.
Speaking of correcting mistakes, I think its about time you change your avatar, and also the personal text under your name..
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. If he actually had his way we'd have killed our cap in signing Nash and have a for sure 8th place team with no upside.
I don't think we'd be an 8th place team with Nash here. Present day Lowry is better than Nash and a much better fit for this roster because we need his athleticism and penetration and defense, and we're still headed straight for 11th or 12th in the East and 30-33 Ws.

Actually I just realized how bad our situation would be if the Nash thing worked out. Paying Nash and Fields 20 million a year and getting a 30 W season out of it would've put us on the road to nowhere. Kind of reminds me of how as bad as the Turk signing was we were inches away from it being much worse, BC was prepared to sign him straight up and renounce everybody instead of doing the S&T, which would've led to 2010's starting lineup and 2009's terrible bench with Ukic and Jake the Snake instead of Jack and Amir. I thought that was one of the most incriminating moments of the BC era, that he looked at the 2009 team who drowned because of their lack of depth, and thought substituting Hedo in for JO/Marion would somehow fix it

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Old 11-08-2012, 02:16 PM   #99 (permalink)
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In the end, its all about the money. Lowry brings more to the table on the court than Nash. However, Nash would sellout out the stadium, improve tv ratings across Canada, and generate more tv advertisement revenue for the franchise. Like VC putting the Raptors on the NBA map, Nash would have the similiar impact in Canada.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:37 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Everybody is avoiding the question lol.....if Colangelo is fired,who's more qualified,that's available? People think handing out the pink slip makes it an easy fix.....I wanna hear names of which President's or executives,that are available and would come to TO? BTW,by the way,if you fire Colangelo Embry,Geraldini,Stefanski are all likely gone.

I'll help you out,maybe TO can throw Landry Fields money at Larry Bird. Add on
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