BrotherSteve's Blog: Chris Bosh, The 130,000,000 Dollar Man?
Old 09-28-2009, 09:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Chris Bosh, Toronto Raptors premier power forward, all-star, and all around best loved player is about to enter what should be the biggest contract season of his young NBA career.

And yes, when one is talking about young veteran all-star sports figures, the salaries being discussed are unbelievably huge, gigantic, and even monstrous. But these contracts do fall under a collective bargaining agreement (“CBA”) made between the NBA and its players.

When Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, and LeBron James signed their contract extensions a few years ago, their agents knew what they were doing. After 7 years of NBA ball, the CBA sets the maximum salary a player can receive at $11,000,000 or 30% of the Cap (which would be $16,224,600 this season). The maximum salary limit for 6 year players is more than $2,000,000 less.

What the players, the agents, and even the league didn’t see coming was a decline in the salary cap this season and projections to decline again next season. So the strategy really didn’t work. Fortunately for the players, there is a floor under which the maximum salary a player can be offered will not fall below at 105% of their last year’s salary.

So they’ll make a little less money than their agents anticipated. Not to worry, they’ll still be okay!

Under a new contract at the maximum salary permitted, Chris Bosh would earn about $16,500,000 next season. (The numbers will be rounded; they’re so big it hardly matters.) Because the Toronto Raptors are Bosh’s current club, they can offer him 10.5% raises in each year of the contract. So in the sixth year of the deal Bosh would be earning about $27,000,000.

Another club trying to pry Bosh away from the Raptors can only offer 8% raises and a five year deal. So Bosh would have to leave that guaranteed $27,000,000 at risk of injury, changes to the CBA, or just an inability to get a team to pay him that much! This is the real explanation for why players who can sign these deals don’t run off and sign with another club.

And in case someone might have noticed, the league might just want to lower those maximum raises built into the current CBA when it’s renegotiated. There are not a lot of guaranteed 8% to 10.5% raises out there in rest of the world.

So Chris Bosh could be entitled to sign a $130,000,000 contract at the end of this season. The question that should be on every fans mind and more likely on MLSE and Bryan Colangelo agenda is can they give it to him?

Where does Chris Bosh stand in terms of being the center piece of the Raptors and should he command over 1/3 of the team’s salary cap space on average over the contract.

No one should question the fact that Bosh has been a very good player over the past 4 seasons. His averages of 22.5 points, 9.7 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.1 blocks, 0.8 steals, while shooting 49.5% put him in the upper echelon of players in the NBA.

Last season on a per game basis Bosh was 11th in points, 12th in rebounds, 99th in assists, 54th in blocks, and 115th in steals. On an 8 category basis, Bosh was the 23rd best fantasy player in the NBA.

But more straight forward and revealing was Bosh ranked 8th amongst all players on a combined total of points, rebounds and assists per game with a score of 35.2. The players who scored higher were:

1. LeBron James 43.3
2. Dwyane Wade 42.7
3. Chris Paul 39.4
4. Kobe Bryant 36.9
5. Dirk Nowitzki 36.7
6. Dwight Howard 35.8
7. Al Jefferson 35.7

Some notables scoring lower: #11, Tim Duncan 33.5; #13 Deron Williams & Carmelo Anthony 33.0; and, #18 Pau Gasol 32.0. (stats available at NBA.com)

The only blemishes on Bosh’s record are the 11 games per season that he didn’t play in and his team’s failure to make the playoffs last season.

From a statistical standpoint, Bosh’s agent is going to be able to make a strong case for his player to be paid the max.

Bryan Colangelo and MLSE have a challenging decision ahead. The initial 3 years of a new max dollar contract should be very manageable for the Toronto Raptors’ organization. The final 3 seasons represent a leap of faith that both the player maintains his productivity and team’s revenues continue to increase at much higher than the rate of inflation of 2% to 3% per year. (Will the fans pay more, much more each season?)

There is also a risk of being trapped under a long term contract at much higher dollars than will be available when the CBA is renegotiated. A max contract could be ensuring the Raptors are a luxury tax paying team for many seasons.

In several interviews now, Bryan Colangelo has indicated that he will be presenting a max contract to Chris Bosh at his earliest opportunity. In fact he is even trying to extend Bosh’s current deal now rather than waiting. (This makes the most sense for the team as an extension would be for fewer years.)

Bryan Colangelo has also said that he would be willing to help Bosh get his deal with a sign and trade scenario. And fortunately for Raptors’ fans, this time the team has an experienced GM who will not get hosed in the exchange of a star player. Comparing the Joe Johnson sign and trade to the Vince Carter deal.

There are a lot of games yet to be played and anything can happen in the NBA. But it seems that Chris Bosh will become a $130,000,000 man next season.

The questions that appear to be in need of answers are: will Chris Bosh be a $130,000,000 man playing in Toronto; and, should the Raptors be investing in a $130,000,000 player?

Most Raptor fans are going to be answering that with an unequivocal, Yes!
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't care how much we appreciate Bosh, he's not worth $27 for one year. Half the potential contract will have him making over $20/yr. This is troubling.
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ughhh, Im so used to seeing CB will get 'max' money next season.... but actually seeing '$130,000,000' written in full instead of the word 'max' makes me sick.
sorry to burst all of our bubbles, but CB is not worth that type of money. not even close.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm willing to wait until 2010 is done to give my opinion.

Nothing he's done so far say's he can't be a max player.

He's got the ability onb the floor. He has very few holes in his game.

His potential is directly proportional to his maturity. Whether as a Raptor, or somewhere else, should Bosh continue to grow as a man, he will be a top money player in this league. If he levels off now, he'll always just be a good player.
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I'm willing to wait until 2010 is done to give my opinion.

Nothing he's done so far say's he can't be a max player.

He's got the ability onb the floor. He has very few holes in his game.

His potential is directly proportional to his maturity. Whether as a Raptor, or somewhere else, should Bosh continue to grow as a man, he will be a top money player in this league. If he levels off now, he'll always just be a good player.
Agreed. I'm hoping that in Bosh's case, with Experience comes some added toughness to compete against the KG's of the league.
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Colangelo may try to extend his contract during camp for the max four years. If that is a no go he will seriously consider any quality offer to move him this season if it makes sense for the Raps. If nothing makes sense he will have little choice but to offer Chris the max. It's debateable whether any team next summer would offer Chris the max in a trade scenario as well as give us a whole lotta quality back in return. I guess everything depends entirely on whether Chris has a breakout year and solidifies himself as a premier talent rather than one of the top 20.
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how many players warrant a 130 mil pay day?

LeBRon
Wade
CP3
Kobe
maybe D12

thats all I can name
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I don't think Bosh should get MAX money but the team will sure look bad w/o him
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I don't think Bosh should get MAX money but the team will sure look bad w/o him
No they wouldn't, if they can S&T him. Which he'd be nuts not to do, if he wants out. Surely we can get another starter and bench depth for Bosh. And if we trade Bosh for another big and add to Bargnani, Turkoglu, Jose, Jack, Belinelli, Amir, Evans we'd be fine. But the deal has to be extremely beneficial for us to do it. Otherwise let him walk (if he wants out?) and spend that 15+Mil on someone else.

If we have the kind of season we think we'll have he isn't going anywhere, at least that's what i think.

One of the questions that should be asked is, what does Colangelo do come February's trade deadline? What position are we in at the time and will he adding someone or if we're struggling could Bosh ask to be traded? So many different scenario's can happen in the next 6-8 months. Can't wait to see what happens.
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It all comes down to winning this year. If we make it to the east finals, or even come close to it, who is going to go on about how sick they are at the thought of 130 mill? If it helps, just compare it to what Oprah makes.
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There are only 2 ways Bosh will ever be worth that kind of money

If he puts up stats like this:

27ppg 12rpg

or

22ppg 12rpg 2bpg 1.5spg <----(I would rather see this out of Bosh)

Basically he either scores more and gets more rebounds or he playes better defence & gets more rebounds...

At least thats the way I see it...

This is the season where we find out what Bosh is really capable of...
& if he can't sustain it I wouldn't give him 130mill!!!
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I'm tired of all this talk about toronto having to win for Bosh so he can justify staying, or Toronto having to do anything..... how about this, it's time for Chris %$$%$ Bosh to step up and win for Toronto!!!!!!

Time for Chris Bosh to dominate when he's on the floor, both on offence and defence. It's time for every player on the starting five to have 4-5 extra easy baskets because Bosh is creating so much havoc, the opposition MUST double and triple him regularily.

THEN we can talk about Toronto, and what they need to do for him, and him getting his "MAX" contract!
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I have to say, if we can't win 45-50 games this season with Bosh and the added depth then maybe he needs to go.
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No they wouldn't, if they can S&T him. Which he'd be nuts not to do, if he wants out. Surely we can get another starter and bench depth for Bosh. And if we trade Bosh for another big and add to Bargnani, Turkoglu, Jose, Jack, Belinelli, Amir, Evans we'd be fine. But the deal has to be extremely beneficial for us to do it. Otherwise let him walk (if he wants out?) and spend that 15+Mil on someone else.
remember, basketball is a superstar league
the team w/o him is all glue and no major pieces (but we will have some scattered shards)
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No they wouldn't, if they can S&T him. Which he'd be nuts not to do, if he wants out. Surely we can get another starter and bench depth for Bosh. And if we trade Bosh for another big and add to Bargnani, Turkoglu, Jose, Jack, Belinelli, Amir, Evans we'd be fine. But the deal has to be extremely beneficial for us to do it. Otherwise let him walk (if he wants out?) and spend that 15+Mil on someone else.

If we have the kind of season we think we'll have he isn't going anywhere, at least that's what i think.

One of the questions that should be asked is, what does Colangelo do come February's trade deadline? What position are we in at the time and will he adding someone or if we're struggling could Bosh ask to be traded? So many different scenario's can happen in the next 6-8 months. Can't wait to see what happens.
After listening to Chris today, i really can't see any scenario where he would actually leave. I think it will become more a question of whether the team decides it worthwhile to give him the six years max or not. If we don't offer him that, than Bryan probably knows he will most likely leave.

It's good for the Raps that the ball is mostly in our court because if he just walked, we would have to drop a few players next year to get back under the cap and sign another free agent. It would put us back a bit because we would lose alot of our quality depth. Sign and trades sometimes work but we won't get the same quality back in return, that's for sure.
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We can have Bargs+Hedu (o someone like their values) for the same price!!
Can be ok for Kobe or LBJ, is better to have one of 'em then a couple of really good players.
Can we say the same for Bosh?
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If Bosh can get us to at least the second round, give him whatever it takes to keep him. If he fails to do so again, sign + trade him, if possible.
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I'm tired of all this talk about toronto having to win for Bosh so he can justify staying, or Toronto having to do anything..... how about this, it's time for Chris %$$%$ Bosh to step up and win for Toronto!!!!!!

Time for Chris Bosh to dominate when he's on the floor, both on offence and defence. It's time for every player on the starting five to have 4-5 extra easy baskets because Bosh is creating so much havoc, the opposition MUST double and triple him regularily.

THEN we can talk about Toronto, and what they need to do for him, and him getting his "MAX" contract!
Good points. And to his credit he said today that if we're going to get better, he knew he would have to get better and went out this offseason to do exactly that. Saw him on Raps TV and man he looks big to me, he's definitely been working it. Now i know why he sounded stoned every time i heard him this summer, he was probably dead exhausted.
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The only way Bosh is even worth considering that amount of money is if he leads into the ECF or make an interesting 2nd round series.... and he has to dominate the entire playoffs. Thats just too much for someone who isn't even participating in training camp.
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