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Old 11-08-2008, 06:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BC has made some questionable moves (ie: Bargnani as #1 pick),Overpaying for Kapono. But he was able to trade Haffa for a surviceable big man,and the Delfino trade imo was a good one and now he's brought in a former All- star in JO to help on D and give Bosh some relief.

He's had some bad luck, Like Garbo's injury,Calderon coming into his own after he traded CV for T.J.

So after nearly 3 years of BC, how has he done so far.I say, a few hits + a few misses and sprinkle in some shitty luck and you have a .500 team that is 3-8 in the playoffs since his arrival.It always seems like Raptor fans are saying, we need this or that and we're contenders. I don't see us being contenders unless we go over the cap.

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Old 11-08-2008, 06:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Trading for Ford and dumping Charlie V was not a bad move. Charlie is still the same inconsistent player he was and to me as showed little growth from the guy I saw in Toronto. Andrea Bargnani pick is something to be debated for sure. in general just by bringing some respect back to this franchise after that fool Babcock were all reasons I hit the approve button.

There should be no on the fence option. Decide YES OR NO. I hate fence sitters. BE A MAN make a choice. Like the undecided in the US ELECTION. They ran for 2 years and you still don't know? LOL
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Old 11-08-2008, 06:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Definitely some questionable choices. Bargnani wasn't a bad choice because at the time he had the most potential, but at the same time you have to question the logic of a Bosh/Bargnani combination, from the beginning I thought they would be too soft defensively and inside to truly succeed.

Delfino was a nice addition last year but when it comes down to it, our 2 second rounders are gone for nothing right now.

Kapono got paid too much.

I like the JO move

In general, I think his biggest legacy so far was totally revamping the team when he got in with guys like Parker, Rasho, Garbo, that helped created a feel around the organization of good, harding working guys. Those small moves turned us around. But his job hasn't been as omgfantastic as it seemed after the first 47 win year, either.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He re-signed Sam. By far his best move to date.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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He's smart with contracts and salaries. Mistakes in this area is what sinks bad GMs.

I approve.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would say he has taken the team one step ahead from where it was, recall the +25 win seasons under Babcock. Since his arrival we've been in the playoff mix every year.

He has not taken the team to an elite level yet, we can't compete (in our conference) with the Cavs, Pistons definitely not the Celtics and I would say not even Orlando.

Whether you love him or hate him, Andrea has caused all this or to be more precise his slow development has. We went out and got JO to defend, score and ease the pressure off the young Italian. The result is too much of our salary is committed to the bigs, between Bosh JO and Andrea we've got $40M in payroll.

I don't think we have the pieces necessary to effect a trade for a swing man like AL Har (just an example I'm not proposing he is the solution here). GSW is as tough as they come when it comes to negotiating a deal just ask Baron Davis. Recall last summer when we offered Dixon/Joey for Pietrus they wanted a rotational player too.

That leaves BC with two choices:
a.) Trade future draft picks or
b.) Go over the salary cap

I am an optimist, however I can see us playing at .500 level or even less this season. Interesting to see what will BC do, this could be the year that defines his tenure in Toronto.

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Old 11-09-2008, 09:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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BC has made mistakes, but he has rectified those mistakes.

He has taken this team from laughingstock to level that they are now.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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He is one of the most overrated in the business from what ive seen so far, maybe hire his Daddy to look over his shoulder and he will do better :P that being said, he is doing a decent job, im not jumping out of my seat just yet, and if we lose Bosh, all is for nothing anyways. Remember, the two cornerstones of this franchise were not picked by BC, so dont give him more credit then he deserves.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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BC has made mistakes, but he has rectified those mistakes.

He has taken this team from laughingstock to level that they are now.
I agree, he has people in the U.S predicting we may win 50 games,we've been a playoff team since he's arrived and won a division title.All that after a 27 win season in 05-06.The perception about the Raptors has changed around the league for the better ,after we were a laughing stock for 4 years!
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Colangelo has been the best Raptors GM to date. He's made his mistakes, and also has been unlucky.

Can you imagine if Salmons had not opted out of the 23M, 5-year deal with the raptors? His per game average is now 17.5p, 4.5reb, 3.8assists, 4.2 free throws, 1.2 steals. And, the deal had Toronto only giving the sixers a second-round draft pick and a trade exception worth $2 million. Granted circumstances would have been different and Salmons may have developed slightly differently, but still, he's an improvement over our SFs.

How good would the raps look now with Jose, Parker, Salmons, Bosh, and O'Neal?? Oh, what could have been...
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Has he ever been the GM of a championship team?
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Has he ever been the GM of a championship team?
No, he hasn't. Have you?
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No, he hasn't. Have you?
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Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic. My bad.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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He is one of the most overrated in the business from what ive seen so far, maybe hire his Daddy to look over his shoulder and he will do better :P that being said, he is doing a decent job, im not jumping out of my seat just yet, and if we lose Bosh, all is for nothing anyways. Remember, the two cornerstones of this franchise were not picked by BC, so dont give him more credit then he deserves.
Thank-you. *clapping*

It's still laughable to me how much crap people give to Babcock when you consider what he had to work with. He had a capped out team with a disgruntled superstar who didn't care and a bunch of players who were marginal at best.

When BC walked into Toronto he had the BEST possible situation that you could ever want as a GM.

#1 draft pick. TONS of cap room. An emerging young all-star.

A lot of BC's mistakes have parallelled Babcock's. Difference is BC is a smooth-talker and Babs was a nerd. lol.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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kapono is not being over paid, he is being under utilized.
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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We were a joke before he came. We are now a playoff team; a perennial one at that. Not bad; we're having trouble getting over the hump, but our salary cap structure makes sense for the first time in Raptors history (good players are on long contracts, bad ones on short contracts). We are in a position to move forward; we got VERY unlucky getting the #1 pick in a year with no consensus #1 pick (or even close). The best player from that draft is a 6'5 SG who had a history of injury problems before that. That is some shit luck.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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As stated BC had the ideal situation, cap room, 1st overall pick, an emerging superstar and a fututre allstar pg.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
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As stated BC had the ideal situation, cap room, 1st overall pick, an emerging superstar and a fututre allstar pg.
Its what he did with all that stuff.

And no-one new about Jose.
And he didnt have the number 1 pick when he got here.
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