Bill Simmons on Raptors most valuable assets

Ligeia · 02-12-2009, 01:44 PM

The Sports Guy: Bill Simmons NBA Trade Value rankings for 2009 - ESPN Page 2

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Andrea Bargnani: His ceiling? Memo Okur. Is this a good thing for the No. 1 overall pick of a 2007 draft that included LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy? Probably not.

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19. Chris Bosh
This year's Pau Gasol: Bosh has been unhappy for awhile and it's starting to reflect in his play. I went to a Clips game in December when Bosh wreaked havoc (31 easy points) but had one of those grim, tortured, trapped, KG-circa-2006 looks on his face. Not good. I call it the "I didn't realize when we decided to have our third kid that my wife would gain 75 pounds" Face. That's why Team Simmons has stopped at two. Wait, am I talking out loud?

Ugo Ferst · 02-12-2009, 01:46 PM

pretty much BAM if you ask me

Aar_Canada · 02-12-2009, 01:47 PM

Smarmy.

MetaLRasaM · 02-12-2009, 01:48 PM

Okur is not even half as athletic as AB, that's just not a correct assessment.

AB is way closer to being a Dirk than an Okur, but for now, he is not as good either of them.

I lost tons of my love for Bosh when he let KG spank him and make a fool out of him.

I would swing my elbows and create a new chin for KG.

Windex · 02-12-2009, 01:56 PM

Bargs is starting to play a lot like Dirk now.

Both aren't great rebounders and move well for their height. Dirk just has a better shot and he's a better scorer than Bargs.

Ugo Ferst · 02-12-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TO2988

Bargs is starting to play a lot like Dirk now.

Both aren't great rebounders and move well for their height. Dirk is just better than Bargs.

FYP

Windex · 02-12-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugo Ferst

FYP

yeah I said Dirk is a better shooter/scorer so he is a better player

Ugo Ferst · 02-12-2009, 02:09 PM

yep, and he always will be

I hate the comparison, it's unfair to AB for ppl to want him to be something he never will be, almost as unfair as the expectations on Chris.

Windex · 02-12-2009, 02:12 PM

They were comparing him to Okur

Simmons says we can trade Bosh (19) for Joe Johnson (21), Caron Butler (29) or O.J. Mayo (33)

**zachus** · 02-12-2009, 02:20 PM

When all is said and done, Andrea will be the second best pick in that draft. Aldridge will be a consistent, serviceable player for his whole career, but Andrea has the potential that Aldridge just doesn't have.

Windex · 02-12-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zachus22

When all is said and done, Andrea will be the second best pick in that draft. Aldridge will be a consistent, serviceable player for his whole career, but Andrea has the potential that Aldridge just doesn't have.

Actually when Its all said and done it will be . . .

Roy
Bargs
Aldridge

Ligeia · 02-12-2009, 02:27 PM

I think the best picks of that draft so far are obviously Bargs, Roy, Aldridge, Millsap, and Gay. Rondo is ok, but looks way better playing on the Celtics. I know some people are high on Sefolosha's potential, too, but he needs a lot more progress.

Windex · 02-12-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ligeia

I think the best picks of that draft so far are obviously Bargs, Roy, Aldridge, Millsap, and Gay. Rondo is ok, but looks way better playing on the Celtics. I know some people are high on Sefolosha's potential, too, but he needs a lot more progress.

I'm not

**zachus** · 02-12-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TO2988

Actually when Its all said and done it will be . . .

Roy
Bargs
Aldridge

That's what I said.

Windex · 02-12-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zachus22

That's what I said.

okay then I proved you point, you just said Bargs will be second best, so (1) Roy and (3) Aldridge was implied.

m5racer · 02-12-2009, 03:04 PM

Hey fun fact: Bargs is the only player on the Raptors that has not missed a single game this year! Good to know that we at least got a pick that is not going to be injured on and off or has weird problems.

Superjudge · 02-12-2009, 03:06 PM

Unbelievable.

Just completely discounts anything Bargnani does as shit. He MUST have hit his ceiling, I mean he's 23, he's all but washed up. Roy and Aldridge are special cases, they have high ceilings, just not bargs.

What a crock of shit, he was emailed!

Ugo Ferst · 02-12-2009, 03:09 PM

well alot of ppl seem to think Bosh hit his peak at 24.

XiaominWu · 02-12-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

Unbelievable.

Just completely discounts anything Bargnani does as shit. He MUST have hit his ceiling, I mean he's 23, he's all but washed up. Roy and Aldridge are special cases, they have high ceilings, just not bargs.

What a crock of shit, he was emailed!

He's saying that Memo is the ceiling.... he's not saying that he's reached it.

jeffb · 02-12-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TO2988

They were comparing him to Okur

Simmons says we can trade Bosh (19) for Joe Johnson (21), Caron Butler (29) or O.J. Mayo (33)

Of course we can.

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Ugo Ferst is dead inside. Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,352 Representing:	pretty much BAM if you ask me

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MetaLRasaM is grown, and now everything is logical. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 501 Representing:	Okur is not even half as athletic as AB, that's just not a correct assessment. AB is way closer to being a Dirk than an Okur, but for now, he is not as good either of them. I lost tons of my love for Bosh when he let KG spank him and make a fool out of him. I would swing my elbows and create a new chin for KG.

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Windex is the coon fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mediterranean Posts: 7,976 Representing:	Bargs is starting to play a lot like Dirk now. Both aren't great rebounders and move well for their height. Dirk just has a better shot and he's a better scorer than Bargs.

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Ugo Ferst is dead inside. Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,352 Representing:	yep, and he always will be I hate the comparison, it's unfair to AB for ppl to want him to be something he never will be, almost as unfair as the expectations on Chris.

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Windex is the coon fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mediterranean Posts: 7,976 Representing:	They were comparing him to Okur Simmons says we can trade Bosh (19) for Joe Johnson (21), Caron Butler (29) or O.J. Mayo (33)

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Ligeia is thinking... Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,059 Representing:	I think the best picks of that draft so far are obviously Bargs, Roy, Aldridge, Millsap, and Gay. Rondo is ok, but looks way better playing on the Celtics. I know some people are high on Sefolosha's potential, too, but he needs a lot more progress.

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