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Old 01-14-2011, 01:17 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Cavs discuss deal for "Cats" Wallace - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Oh shit if this is true BC should outbid Cavs. Wallace is exactly the kind of player our teem needs at SF. (Whatever was said in the past about not coming to TO, its still better than staying in Charlotte or going to Cleveland)
TPE + our unprotected 1st to get an all-star is a steal

Edit: wtf I misread. Cavs want Wallace PLUS pick? Crazy...
we have no need for wallace
he would have been a good fit last season, not now - what's he going to do for us, make us into a .500 team? This team should aim to peak in 3-4 years, by which time wallace would be a fossil.

We don't need good veteran players, we need good draft picks and good young players.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:23 PM   #62 (permalink)
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we have no need for wallace
he would have been a good fit last season, not now - what's he going to do for us, make us into a .500 team? This team should aim to peak in 3-4 years, by which time wallace would be a fossil.

We don't need good veteran players, we need good draft picks and good young players.
I disagree. Wallace makes us a better than .500 team. He's legit... if he can stay healthy. Look at Charlotte's roster and then look back at ours. Look again at Charlotte's, look back, diamonds.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:20 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I disagree. Wallace makes us a better than .500 team. He's legit... if he can stay healthy. Look at Charlotte's roster and then look back at ours. Look again at Charlotte's, look back, diamonds.
um, maybe you're thinking of Lebron James ... wallace is not a game changer, he's arguably not even as good as bosh. Surely you're not implying that adding wallace would make us into anything more than a 1st round quick exit playoff team (if that)?
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:48 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I disagree. Wallace makes us a better than .500 team. He's legit...


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Old 01-14-2011, 02:52 PM   #65 (permalink)
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in fact we need veteran more than people think.
a veteran is the one who can teach to young, andgive them some confidence.

jose is good for bayless, like barbosa is for DD or weems and evans for johnson and dorsey or davis.

this veteran are the ones who make things happens. don't forget that. but like always, the choice of the veteran who can teach your youngs are crucial.
so maybe we need a vet SF and a VET big Center to teach some thing our wings and our big men.

Wallace can teach DD, wright, and weems or kleiza how be better at this position.
and maybe dalembert can bring his expirience in the mix.

i think a good team msut find balance between vet and young.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:53 PM   #66 (permalink)
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um, maybe you're thinking of Lebron James ... wallace is not a game changer, he's arguably not even as good as bosh. Surely you're not implying that adding wallace would make us into anything more than a 1st round quick exit playoff team (if that)?
I'm saying adding wallace would make us a playoff team, with a better chance of advancing if we got hot than last year's team....

I'd say Wallace and Bosh are on a similar level. Positionally and skill wise, I'd say he's a better fit for this team than Bosh is.

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Old 01-14-2011, 02:55 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I didn't say he'd make our record above .500 this year, but I'd suggest going forward with Wallace, and not having given up any current players minus Weems, that we'd play at .500 or above the rest of the way. You're welcome to disagree, just be understanding of what you're in disagreement with....
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:25 PM   #68 (permalink)
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i like both mayo and thabheet i dont mind trading our pick if we could basically get TWO young guys with potential
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:28 PM   #69 (permalink)
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i wish carmelo would get traded already. you know the funny thing is, nobody is even hating on melo for all of this.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:32 PM   #70 (permalink)
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i wish carmelo would get traded already. you know the funny thing is, nobody is even hating on melo for all of this.
He's keeping quiet, he's honest with his team as he's about to be a FA. You can dislike him for his decision but the way he's gone about it is pretty good imo.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:52 PM   #71 (permalink)
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He's keeping quiet, he's honest with his team as he's about to be a FA. You can dislike him for his decision but the way he's gone about it is pretty good imo.
that could be debate worthy... there seems to be confusion about who he'd sign an extension with and that's clearly on Melo if he's been honest with the team. If he wants out, Ujiri should know who he will sign with...
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:04 PM   #72 (permalink)
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He's keeping quiet, he's honest with his team as he's about to be a FA. You can dislike him for his decision but the way he's gone about it is pretty good imo.
Well, the Nuggets were two games away from the finals just 2 years ago. And you can argue that their team has improved since then (Lawson, Afflalo) and the western conference has regressed. So, there's no reason they shouldn't be a top 4 team. But Melo's lack of willingness to carry them there, and desire to leave, likely serves as a major distraction. I contend he is doing harm to his current club.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:23 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Well, the Nuggets were two games away from the finals just 2 years ago. And you can argue that their team has improved since then (Lawson, Afflalo) and the western conference has regressed. So, there's no reason they shouldn't be a top 4 team. But Melo's lack of willingness to carry them there, and desire to leave, likely serves as a major distraction. I contend he is doing harm to his current club.
It's his perogative to leave as a FA. And he's being honest with the Nuggets. I'll give him higher marks then Lebron or Bosh.
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It's his perogative to leave as a FA. And he's being honest with the Nuggets. I'll give him higher marks then Lebron or Bosh.
I'll reserve judgement until I know if he's wasting time and energy of all involved if he's not willing to sign with Nets....
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:14 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Look for a team looking to dump a big contract (a big?) and waive 1st round picks or young talent to the Raps to buy them up. Considering BC has to use the TPE this year or lose it, I'm expecting at least 3/4 new young assets moving forward, players and picks for Peja, Jose, TPE
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:44 PM   #76 (permalink)
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RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Nuggets Have No Interest In Mayo

Supposedly the Nuggets aren't interested in Mayo and that Mayo wouldn't like to be traded to Denver. Maybe we can get him? Maybe Iggy?
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:05 AM   #77 (permalink)
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i think a lot of people are overvaluing mayo
sure, he's a scorer but he's not a very consistent scorer, and he's only a scorer
think about this, he's on a memphis team where he's already lost his starting guard position and now comes off the bench, and this is a memphis team that doesn't have any big name guys at guard and has a PG in conley who many would argue is 1 of the worst starting PGs in the league, with all this he still can't even start, this has to tell you something
and this guy also has some maturity issues, he basically pulled an arenas this year just without the guns, Raptors don't like to acquire guys like that
in my opinion, i'd only get him if we were giving away less
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I would take Wallace anyday for expirings, TPE and anyone that's not a part of this future.

He's getting older but hey,

1. We are weak at the SF position

2. He plays HARD and extremely aggressive. Probably plays the hardest in the league. His aggressiveness will rub off on our team and will make us lose some of our pussyassness that we show once in a while.

3. Doesn't demand the ball

4. If he gets traded here for no one a part of the future (ex. Calderon, Peja, Evans, Kleiza, Weems) plus Miami's first, TPE, we ARE a playoff team without a doubt.






Fuck I wish we kept Marion instead of signing Turk. Dude fit in so well.
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:48 AM   #79 (permalink)
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I would take Wallace anyday for expirings, TPE and anyone that's not a part of this future.

He's getting older but hey,

1. We are weak at the SF position

2. He plays HARD and extremely aggressive. Probably plays the hardest in the league. His aggressiveness will rub off on our team and will make us lose some of our pussyassness that we show once in a while.

3. Doesn't demand the ball

4. If he gets traded here for no one a part of the future (ex. Calderon, Peja, Evans, Kleiza, Weems) plus Miami's first, TPE, we ARE a playoff team without a doubt.






Fuck I wish we kept Marion instead of signing Turk. Dude fit in so well.
marion never wanted to be here, even when he was here he was clearly just playing out the rest of the season till he was a free agent and then he was going to look elsewhere, he just didn't say that to the media, which i respect him for, but his tone was always "the raptors" and not "our team", he was always distancing himself from being known as part of this team, like 1 foot was already out the door

i don't think BC would get wallace mainly because his aggressive play has put him on the disabled list too often the last few years, he's been playing like half seasons for a while now
BC's not going to gamble on players right now because we're not a team that's seriously in contention for a playoff run, when we got JO it was a gamble and he said it but that was because we were close to something, we aren't close now and JO's gamble is going to make BC think twice
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:46 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I disagree. Wallace makes us a better than .500 team. He's legit... if he can stay healthy. Look at Charlotte's roster and then look back at ours. Look again at Charlotte's, look back, diamonds.

i use to want gerald wallace on the team.. but now i change my mind. what good is wallace going to do? i agree he will make the team better, but not significantly better. i think its extremely hard to be the worst team in the league. so many shitty teams out there make the last spot (and top chances of 1st pick) very difficult to get. sure, wallace makes us better, say he squeezes us in the playoffs, or if not, just below it. neither does us any good. we lose out on draft picks and we get kicked out of playoffs in four games.

i think the key is to get high potential youngins and let them suck for a bit so we can get even more youngins thru the draft. OKC model, look at them now
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