Bibby to the Raptors?

LilRomeo · 01-05-2011, 01:27 PM

I got this from a friend of mine on Facebook so I went to Hoopshype, Raptors Forum, and Raptors Republic to see if it's true. Then I saw this thread on RealGM Forum:

Quote:

I know a few guys who work at Sportsnet and was talking to one today and he mentioned a rumour that is circling in the NBA involving Atlanta and Toronto.

Deal involves Calderon and a big for Bibby and a big. No word on picks or cash being sent either way but he said it would likely include one or the other.

That's about all I know other then both teams waived players today.

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To put into context my source, he was the same guy who mentioned a few seasons back BC wanting Rasho to return if waived from Indiana when really it took a whole season to get him back. So he was right on him returning, just not in the time frame that was rumoured.

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antwalker11 · 01-05-2011, 01:34 PM

not sure if i want this....bibby isnt getting any younger and dont think he offers much more to us then Calderon does, that said if the big we are getting is horford id do it (we can dream right!!)

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:34 PM

Jose/Evans (14Mil)

for

Bibby/Pachulia (10Mil)

???

thought · 01-05-2011, 01:35 PM

if this is true my guess would be Calderon + evans for bibby + pachulia. Calderon is a better option than bibby at this point but zaza could be made useful as a backup C.

antwalker11 · 01-05-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Jose/Evans (14Mil)

for

Bibby/Pachulia (10Mil)

???

thats just lose/lose for us though... i dont see why we would do this?

Chiggmo · 01-05-2011, 01:36 PM

I wouldnt mind depending on who the bigs are getting swapped, if its a good big of ours for a bench player of theirs i don't see any point in this deal really. I mean it gets caldy out, but if it brings us nothing in return, why bother?

I have nothing against bibby, but hes not great or anything.

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antwalker11

not sure if i want this....bibby isnt getting any younger and dont think he offers much more to us then Calderon does, that said if the big we are getting is horford id do it (we can dream right!!)

He offers extra capspace and someone who is a little better defensively and more aggressive. He's 32 with 1yr/6.2Mil remaining after this season vs Calderon who's owed 2yrs/20Mil after this season. At this point it's all about shedding contracts, especially our worst one. And imo Bibby would be a better mentor for Bayless then Jose is.

One question i have is, why would Atlanta trade for Jose who's got bum feet?

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 01-05-2011, 01:38 PM

What's Bibby's contract status? As much as I don't really like Jose on this team, Bibby isn't much more than a 3pt shooter anymore.

antwalker11 · 01-05-2011, 01:40 PM

i just think that, for some reason Calderon seems to have quite a bit of value in some GM's eyes (bobcat trade that almost went down for example)
dont see how bibby will make us any better and having to take on a big of theres for a big of ours could either sweeten this a lot or make it even worse
just like to think we could do better then bibby running our O

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antwalker11

thats just lose/lose for us though... i dont see why we would do this?

How do you figure it's a lose lose?

**INSIDER** · 01-05-2011, 01:41 PM

if we didnt have so many wings (and an emerging Kleiza), i wouldve hoped to snag Marvin Williams from them.
he's underused there and just gets scraps. he needs a change of scenery badly.

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty!

What's Bibby's contract status? As much as I don't really like Jose on this team, Bibby isn't much more than a 3pt shooter anymore.

Bibby after this season, 1yr/6.2Mil

Jose after this season, 2yrs/20.5Mil

N64 · 01-05-2011, 01:43 PM

wtf Bibby is done...but if his contract is ok I guess it's an alright deal. A Big? Don't think ATL can keep Smith and Crawford next year and pay them what they want...anyway Peja's huge expiring goes too for Smith?

antwalker11 · 01-05-2011, 01:45 PM

if we could somehow get Smith off them i think we should do everything possible to make it happen

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolimitz64

wtf Bibby is done...but if his contract is ok I guess it's an alright deal. A Big? Don't think ATL can keep Smith and Crawford next year and pay them what they want...anyway Peja's huge expiring goes too for Smith?

I wish! But i highly doubt it unless Bargs is part of it and i doubt that they would make such drastic changes at this point.

And Bibby isn't done imo, he's shooting 47%, 49 3pt% this season. His assists are down mind you. But this deal would be more about saving $$$ anyway.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 01-05-2011, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Bibby after this season, 1yr/6.2Mil

Jose after this season, 2yrs/20.5Mil

I guess its' a bit better from a contract standpoint... but really unless Bibby were coming off this year I dont' think I'd do it... depending of course on who the big might be. Pachulia for Evans doesn't intersest me.

Scully · 01-05-2011, 01:48 PM

jose and amir for bibby and marvin williams

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 01:51 PM

Bargs/Jose/Barbosa (27Mil)

for

Smith/Crawford/Bibby (28Mil)

fresh n' spicy · 01-05-2011, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Bargs/Jose/Barbosa (27Mil)

for

Smith/Crawford/Bibby (28Mil)

yes ill text that trade offer to BC and see what he thinks of it

jeffb · 01-05-2011, 02:00 PM

What makes things even more interesting is both teams waived a player today.

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01-05-2011, 01:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
antwalker11 wanting something sweet for pejas contract Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 33 Representing:	not sure if i want this....bibby isnt getting any younger and dont think he offers much more to us then Calderon does, that said if the big we are getting is horford id do it (we can dream right!!)

01-05-2011, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	Jose/Evans (14Mil) for Bibby/Pachulia (10Mil) ???

01-05-2011, 01:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
thought jonas smellandchewthis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,731 Representing:	if this is true my guess would be Calderon + evans for bibby + pachulia. Calderon is a better option than bibby at this point but zaza could be made useful as a backup C.

01-05-2011, 01:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chiggmo rootin for the eagles, boise state, the leafs, raps, and jays Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Halifax Posts: 5,683 Representing:	I wouldnt mind depending on who the bigs are getting swapped, if its a good big of ours for a bench player of theirs i don't see any point in this deal really. I mean it gets caldy out, but if it brings us nothing in return, why bother? I have nothing against bibby, but hes not great or anything.

01-05-2011, 01:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sick, Wicked and Nasty! adoring his baby girl. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada eh? Posts: 3,278 Representing:	What's Bibby's contract status? As much as I don't really like Jose on this team, Bibby isn't much more than a 3pt shooter anymore.

01-05-2011, 01:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
antwalker11 wanting something sweet for pejas contract Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 33 Representing:	i just think that, for some reason Calderon seems to have quite a bit of value in some GM's eyes (bobcat trade that almost went down for example) dont see how bibby will make us any better and having to take on a big of theres for a big of ours could either sweeten this a lot or make it even worse just like to think we could do better then bibby running our O

01-05-2011, 01:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
INSIDER BOOBS never too old. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: richmond hill Posts: 10,804 Representing:	if we didnt have so many wings (and an emerging Kleiza), i wouldve hoped to snag Marvin Williams from them. he's underused there and just gets scraps. he needs a change of scenery badly.

01-05-2011, 01:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
N64 not here Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7,584 Representing:	wtf Bibby is done...but if his contract is ok I guess it's an alright deal. A Big? Don't think ATL can keep Smith and Crawford next year and pay them what they want...anyway Peja's huge expiring goes too for Smith?

01-05-2011, 01:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
antwalker11 wanting something sweet for pejas contract Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 33 Representing:	if we could somehow get Smith off them i think we should do everything possible to make it happen

01-05-2011, 01:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Scully is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 870 Representing:	jose and amir for bibby and marvin williams

01-05-2011, 01:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	Bargs/Jose/Barbosa (27Mil) for Smith/Crawford/Bibby (28Mil)

01-05-2011, 02:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	What makes things even more interesting is both teams waived a player today.