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Old 01-05-2011, 03:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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no, because the way were playing well have a top 3 pick
I doubt it. I say we end up around 5-6th unless alot of luck is involved.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:33 PM   #42 (permalink)
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If you want to have more conspiracy theory to this. Jose might have sat out last night not because he's hurt but because he's being traded.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:38 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:48 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The rumours about Josh were earlier in the season and things might have changed. We can dream, I guess.

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Here's a question, if we had to swap picks (unprotected) with them to get Josh Smith would you do it? Say #5 for #20 ??
Yes, depending on what the other parts of the trade include. The Raps really need 2 way players. Josh can impact the game in several ways. It would be very hard to get a better player at the #5 spot. This would be much different than BC's past moves involving trading picks, because Josh Smith is still young. He's not a vet who is past his prime.
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As good as Smith is, he is a big headcase, Bibby is too old and douche. I might have to stop cheering for the Raps if this happends.
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As good as Smith is, he is a big headcase, Bibby is too old and douche. I might have to stop cheering for the Raps if this happends.
Headcase, since when? State proof of a patern that shows he's a headcase. As for Bibby he's a means to an end that saves money and is alot more durable then Jose and is as good a shooter. IMO Atlanta would be nuts to take Jose, which is why this probably won't happen.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:58 PM   #48 (permalink)
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This team needs more short term salary commitment and I see Bibby being flipped around for something else. Jose has been a professional and very valuable to this team but we probably need cap flexibility. That and it would probably be better for Jose to play for an actual playoff team than a lottery bound one as he's a vet. The defense will be good enough to hide his shortcomings as well.
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:02 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Smith had some issues earlier in his career, clashing with coaching staff and whatnot, but I think he's fine now. Mind you, I think what we've seen from him over the last 5 years stat wise is pretty much what you're gonna get. Funny that the kids been in the league for 7-8 years already.

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Old 01-05-2011, 05:00 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Headcase, since when? State proof of a patern that shows he's a headcase. As for Bibby he's a means to an end that saves money and is alot more durable then Jose and is as good a shooter. IMO Atlanta would be nuts to take Jose, which is why this probably won't happen.
Maybe headcase is the wrong word, but he has had a questionable attitude since he was in high school. It's part of the reason he dropped out of the lottery in '04. He's had very public blow ups with Mike Woodson and has already had it out with Larry Drew this year and been benched.
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I dunno bibby, but his name alone is enough to make me happy.
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:15 PM   #53 (permalink)
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there's a few problems here

1) the quote's source is from Sportsnet and those guys there don't even know hockey let alone basketball
2) why would be a rebuilding team stacking young talent trade for an aging PG who was on the downhill like 3 years ago already and give them a younger guy, its like we want to give them a free upgrade and we pay them to take their garbage to the dump site
3) its suggested that its a PG + big for PG + big, which means a direct swap, so bibby for Calderon and a big for big, clearly calderon's value is like multiple times the value of bibby, on the hawks its joe johnson who basically runs the point and bibby just shoots the 3 and not even that well, why would we give around distributing PG who's "in his prime" so we can get a PG who couldn't even pass in his best years in the league
now the big for big, tell me which big would we be getting from the hawks, clearly they're not giving us horford, so really, what other big is there on that team that you would say is so much better than any of our bigs that have any significance

the only way this trade has any legs to stand on is if the players coming back are all expiring contracts and to the best of my knowledge bibby was just a free agent who resigned multi-years with the hawks, so unless BC has gone to the crazy house or david stern is doing his hacking nba thing this brings me back to my original point - Sportsnet guys are idiots!
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:47 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Yeah, I don't know about the whole Bibby for Calderon idea..
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:20 PM   #56 (permalink)
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If the principle is Jose for Bibby, I don't like the deal.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:21 PM   #57 (permalink)
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If the principle is Jose for Bibby, I don't like the deal.
why?
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why?
Bibby does not distribute the ball as well as Calderon. Bibby adds redundancy to the team, since we already have a scoring point guard with Bayless.
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Aw hell, I shoulda read the thread better.

This funny-named Bibby character is a trade for Jose?

Screw your name, Bibby! I'm Team Jose! My avatar says so.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:30 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Bibby does not distribute the ball as well as Calderon. Bibby adds redundancy to the team, since we already have a scoring point guard with Bayless.
Seriously, Jose needs to go already. Shit he's hurt yet again and he's overpaid. And on top of that we've gone nowhere with him. Both sides need to move on and this saves us money and Bibby becomes an expiring this summer. Jose's distrubuting isn't getting us anywhere anytime soon anyway.

wether for bibby or in some other deal he needs to go before next season imo.
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